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Old 08-26-2013, 01:35 PM   #1
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Anybody install a Hot Battery buss of any brand?

Where did you place it? If you added a Stebel Horn, where did you mount that as well?
Additional BMW plugs? I need a high draw plug for my tire pump that I believe will make my can bus unhappy
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:58 PM   #2
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Hi Flyred,

Just to save you the difficulty of clicking on the search link (upper right of every forum) and typing "stebel", here's a link to some installation instructions... http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...ghlight=stebel

And what's a "Hot Battery Buss"?

If you mean a fuse panel of some sort, there have also been lots of threads about how best to do that. I installed the one from Twisted Throttle (think it was called FuzeBlock) and it was pretty easy and works like a charm. I power my GPS, Denali D2D lights, Stebel Nautilus horn, Hyperlite flashing brake and running lights and a second accessory outlet (for my heated gear and/or compressor) and I think one or two other things which slip my tired mind at the moment.

Good luck!
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Old 08-27-2013, 05:59 PM   #3
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A Hot Battery buss is a unswitched buss tied straight to the battery. Its airplane talk. Fuse block works too. Thanks.
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:00 PM   #4
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Hi Flyred,

Just to save you the difficulty of clicking on the search link (upper right of every forum) and typing "stebel", here's a link to some installation instructions... http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...ghlight=stebel

And what's a "Hot Battery Buss"?

If you mean a fuse panel of some sort, there have also been lots of threads about how best to do that. I installed the one from Twisted Throttle (think it was called FuzeBlock) and it was pretty easy and works like a charm. I power my GPS, Denali D2D lights, Stebel Nautilus horn, Hyperlite flashing brake and running lights and a second accessory outlet (for my heated gear and/or compressor) and I think one or two other things which slip my tired mind at the moment.

Good luck!
How do you make it all come on with the key?
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:07 PM   #5
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I was leaning towards something like this:

http://www.aerostich.com/tools/elect...-module-1.html

some circuits stay powered, some are on with the key
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:24 AM   #6
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That'll work too, but it's more expensive than other options. I don't really see the need for something that modern for this application, but if your budget can stand it, who am I to talk you out of it?

The thing I don't like about that unit is the way you connect your accessories... I much prefer the small screw terminals right on the fuse panel itself over having to connect to the end of a wire, taping the connection, etc.

But it should work.

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I was leaning towards something like this:

http://www.aerostich.com/tools/elect...-module-1.html

some circuits stay powered, some are on with the key
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:30 AM   #7
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The fuse panel is connected to the battery over a relay and the relay switches everything on when it gets a trigger signal. This is an extremely low current draw and one not even noticed by the Canbus system. So when the ignition is turned on, the trigger gets power and everything becomes live.

There are two common places to get the trigger wire from: The first and easiest, is to use the GPS connection that pre-exists on most BMW motorcycles. It's usually up near the battery somewhere and often rather difficult to find if you don't know where and what to look for. The "problem" with this approach (in my own opinion) is that this circuit stays ON for something like 30-45 seconds after you turn off the ignition. So anything you've got connected to your fuse panel (GPS, running lights, etc.) stays on for that period. I don't like that.

The second common place to get the trigger wire power from is the little running light under your low beam headlight. This is also fairly easily done, and if you want even easier, there's a Twisted Throttle Canbus trigger wire part that is "plug and play". That's what I used on my F800GS and it was way easy.

Hope this answers your question.

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Old 08-28-2013, 09:01 AM   #8
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The fuse panel is connected to the battery over a relay and the relay switches everything on when it gets a trigger signal. This is an extremely low current draw and one not even noticed by the Canbus system. So when the ignition is turned on, the trigger gets power and everything becomes live.

There are two common places to get the trigger wire from: The first and easiest, is to use the GPS connection that pre-exists on most BMW motorcycles. It's usually up near the battery somewhere and often rather difficult to find if you don't know where and what to look for. The "problem" with this approach (in my own opinion) is that this circuit stays ON for something like 30-45 seconds after you turn off the ignition. So anything you've got connected to your fuse panel (GPS, running lights, etc.) stays on for that period. I don't like that.

The second common place to get the trigger wire power from is the little running light under your low beam headlight. This is also fairly easily done, and if you want even easier, there's a Twisted Throttle Canbus trigger wire part that is "plug and play". That's what I used on my F800GS and it was way easy.

Hope this answers your question.
Does the twisted throttle piece come with their fuse block or do you have to purchase it separate?
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It's a separate piece, and works with your choice of fuse block. And that high-tech one mentioned above probably needs to get a trigger signal somewhere also, and again I'd use the TT one. It just makes it easy.

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Does the twisted throttle piece come with their fuse block or do you have to purchase it separate?
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:59 AM   #10
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It's a separate piece, and works with your choice of fuse block. And that high-tech one mentioned above probably needs to get a trigger signal somewhere also, and again I'd use the TT one. It just makes it easy.
Looks like TT changed up their available fuse blocks
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/power...or-motorcycles


http://www.twistedthrottle.com/rowe-...rammable-cable
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:05 PM   #11
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Get the Fuzeblock FZ-1 and mount it on top of the airbox, under the panel.

Compact enough to fit there, very short wiring run to the battery and your accessories, switched + unswitched power that you can select by moving a fuse, etc.

Much better solution than another fusebox at the back end of the end IMO.
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:58 AM   #12
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I was leaning towards something like this:

http://www.aerostich.com/tools/elect...-module-1.html

some circuits stay powered, some are on with the key
That unit is produced by Rowe electronics. Waterproof and no fuses to change. In addition, you can have them program ALL of the circuits any way you want (delay start, delay off, etc).
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Old 08-31-2013, 07:13 PM   #13
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Tyre pump

I have my tyre pump connection directly from the battery, no fuses, no switches. It has an SAE plug on the end that I tuck behind the right hand side plastics. The pump is a Slime Brand.
I don't use it for everyday inflation and have never had any issues with it.
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Old 08-31-2013, 08:03 PM   #14
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I was leaning towards something like this:

http://www.aerostich.com/tools/elect...-module-1.html

some circuits stay powered, some are on with the key
That's what I have on my bike. The main reason was it was waterproof. I don't have a horn tied to it though.
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