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Old 11-22-2014, 01:15 AM   #1
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2015 GS Gearbox. Verdict : Wow! Incredible.

Ok, so I picked up my new 2015 Arctic White GS with the black drivetrain, with all options including Keyless, GSAP & NAV V.

I am coming off a 10,000 klm 13 GSW which has not been ridden in over 3 months.

The first thing I noticed with this bike is that I am easily flat footing it, did they ship me a low version or is the rear spring compressing more than my 13? Or have I put on more weight, lol. Whatever it is I like it.

The gearbox on this thing is other worldly. When you change gears it is like a micro switch rather than a gear lever. My 13 used to clunk into 1st and sometimes other gears. Not any more on this model. I must say at this stage that the gearbox is silky smooth and bordering on perfect.

I love the GSAP option, not so great 1-2 or 2-1 as it is a bit jumpy, fair enough, but all other gear combos, wow, just sublime.

I can not notice much difference between the 13 engine and this one although I know this one has a heavier crankshaft. There is still torque everywhere and it seems to rev easily. I notice that the front wheel lift often accelerating in 1st & 2nd and I can feel traction cutting in to lower the front wheel. Never had that experience on the 13. Keep in mind that I am still running this in so only going to about 1/2 throttle but that is plenty!

So, very happy with this but ordered a new S1000XR just in case, lol. Delivery scheduled for Jul 2015.

I will get some pics up soon.
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Old 11-22-2014, 01:18 AM   #2
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Can you tell me more about the 1-2 2-1 shift using the GSAP? I purchased the GSAP so that I can easily go between 1 and 2 where I tend to find myself in heavy traffic and slow off road riding.

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Old 11-22-2014, 01:42 AM   #3
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Can you tell me more about the 1-2 2-1 shift using the GSAP? I purchased the GSAP so that I can easily go between 1 and 2 where I tend to find myself in heavy traffic and slow off road riding.

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It definately works 1-2 & 2-1 but it is a bit more of a jerk or thump as those are very low gears.
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Old 11-22-2014, 01:45 AM   #4
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I was reading on UKGSer about guys who have taken delivery of 15's a month ago complaining that the new water based paint on the frame is wearing down to metal very rapidly.

I had a look at the affected areas of my frame near the riders pegs and it looks messy with paint blobbed on and runny presumably in an effort to make the paint thicker? Might get some clear to stick over it although the surface is not very smooth.
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Old 11-22-2014, 01:46 AM   #5
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Would you consider it unbearable or very pronounced? Would a passenger find it unsettling?
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Old 11-22-2014, 01:46 AM   #6
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You have to be accelerating hard for it to work smoothly between 1-2, and braking hard for it to work smoothly from 2-1. The rest of the time, you don't need to be so aggressive, but the throttle HAS to be open to go 2-3-4-5-6. If it's slightly closed, you'll get a crap shift. Interestingly, on my S1000R, you don't need to be accelerating to get it to go up the box smoothly.
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Old 11-22-2014, 01:48 AM   #7
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I was reading on UKGSer about guys who have taken delivery of 15's a month ago complaining that the new water based paint on the frame is wearing down to metal very rapidly.

I had a look at the affected areas of my frame near the riders pegs and it looks messy with paint blobbed on and runny presumably in an effort to make the paint thicker? Might get some clear to stick over it although the surface is not very smooth.
Either get the Touratech frame guards, or just use some 3M Ventureshield to protect the frame.
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The 12/21 is best avoided at light throttle. If you are in slow moving traffic it is a pain. It is not a showstopper but you notice it and wonder if you did something wrong.

The sound/feeling is like a soft to medium thump, does not feel like metal on metal.
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The 12/21 is best avoided at light throttle. If you are in slow moving traffic it is a pain. It is not a showstopper but you notice it and wonder if you did something wrong.

The sound/feeling is like a soft to medium thump, does not feel like metal on metal.

Thanks. Hopefully it's something I can either live with or figure out a way to smoothen it out. This will be my first time ever using GSAP or anything like it.
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Old 11-22-2014, 03:04 AM   #11
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You added all the farkles too?
What crash bars are those?
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Old 11-22-2014, 03:24 AM   #12
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Thanks. Hopefully it's something I can either live with or figure out a way to smoothen it out. This will be my first time ever using GSAP or anything like it.
The clutch is also perfectly cool, light and easy to use.

Just resign yourself to using the clutch for 12/21 unless throttle open or brakes on otherwise expect a thump.

This is also my first time with GSAP, I am only 36 klm ahead of you.
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Old 11-22-2014, 03:38 AM   #13
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You added all the farkles too?
What crash bars are those?
Yes, I had a lot of mainly SW Motech farkles on my 13 GSW. They were all removed and with the exception of the crash bars & radiator guards have been or will be fitted.

The crash bars are SW Motech as are the wide footpegs and adjustable folding gear lever and also the black heel guards. The handlebar 40 mm barbacks are from Iliumworks and include a 1 inch brake banjo extension so the front brake line is not tight.

I still have a lot more bits to fit.
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Old 11-22-2014, 06:07 AM   #14
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I doubt that there have been any changes to the gearbox specifications, components, or design so it's surprising to read that yours is so much better than the last.
I probably will order a '15 soon and I'll see for myself. Hope they have done something to improve or eliminate the clunk when shifting up through the lower gears. The clunk from neutral into first I completely understand and can easily work around. I'm expecting to be at least partially disappointed with the gearbox.

As far as the lower ride height goes... that's puzzling too The seat pictured doesn't appear to be a Low version.... and your "window sticker" and/or VIN should tell you if it is a Low Suspension model. Of course, I'm sure you're aware that the seat is height adjustable and as I understand it, adjustable for tilt as well.

Let us know what you find out.

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Old 11-22-2014, 06:27 AM   #15
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they're all great. Until the first service is done.

then the box changes character (a bit / alot , depending)
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