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Old 10-08-2013, 08:40 AM   #916
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I had issues with my bike. There was an intermittent knocking noise. I then found if I pushed the bike backwards the noise happened all the time.

The dealer took the bike in and said they lubricated a universal joint on the drive shaft. This rectified the issue :)
Interseting..the joints are non servicable..they can not be greased...wonder what they did really...
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:27 PM   #917
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And update on the GS-LC dead battery after sitting a couple days problem.

After the dealer charged the battery on Tuesday and then letting the bike sit until Friday the battery was too low to start the bike.

Later last Friday after charging the battery the dealer "reset all of the electronics" and let the bike sit until this morning.

They just called and said that the bike fired right up after sitting so hopefully this will solve the problem.
I'm taking a meter with me so that I can see how low the battery is after being drained and charged 3 or 4 times in the last couple weeks.

We'll see how things go.
I never got used to the Triumph but I've only ridden it <100 miles so it's hard to say much about it. (I rode one of my other bikes all weekend)
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:28 PM   #918
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And update on the GS-LC dead battery after sitting a couple days problem.

After the dealer charged the battery on Tuesday and then letting the bike sit until Friday the battery was too low to start the bike.

Later last Friday after charging the battery the dealer "reset all of the electronics" and let the bike sit until this morning.

They just called and said that the bike fired right up after sitting so hopefully this will solve the problem.
I'm taking a meter with me so that I can see how low the battery is after being drained and charged 3 or 4 times in the last couple weeks.

We'll see how things go.
I never got used to the Triumph but I've only ridden it <100 miles so it's hard to say much about it. (I rode one of my other bikes all weekend)
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:43 PM   #919
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OK.
As it was explained to me...it goes like this.

BMW M/C put out a service bulletin within the last 10 days that stated that the GPS can-buss system needed to be re-calibrated and a part of that is the recommendation that when unplugging electronics from the OEM GPS plug that the bike be running so that the can-buss system knows, prior to shutdown, that there is nothing there to energize.

Otherwise the can-buss system will try to energize that plug while making it's normal rounds and if it doesn't find it initially it'll keep trying.
Which after a couple days uses enough of the battery that the bike won't start.

I somewhat understand the point and I'll certainly follow their directions although I still think that having to remove the GPS if the bike is going to sit for any length of time is a stupid requirement.

PS The bike had 12.66 volts when I picked it up.
As opposed to the 12.4 volts when they initially warranted it.
And the 13.1 volts the bike had when I tested it with the new replacement battery.

Now hopefully I can move my butt out of this less than desirable thread.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:04 PM   #920
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OK.
As it was explained to me...it goes like this.

BMW M/C put out a service bulletin within the last 10 days that stated that the GPS can-buss system needed to be re-calibrated and a part of that is the recommendation that when unplugging electronics from the OEM GPS plug that the bike be running so that the can-buss system knows, prior to shutdown, that there is nothing there to energize.

Otherwise the can-buss system will try to energize that plug while making it's normal rounds and if it doesn't find it initially it'll keep trying.
Which after a couple days uses enough of the battery that the bike won't start.

I somewhat understand the point and I'll certainly follow their directions although I still think that having to remove the GPS if the bike is going to sit for any length of time is a stupid requirement.

It sounds like the problem happens when the GPS is removed after the bike is turned off? Normally my GPS stays on the bike -- was your battery dieing because the GPS was removed? When I do remove the GPS the bike is always off. Interesting....
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:55 PM   #921
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It sounds like the problem happens when the GPS is removed after the bike is turned off? Normally my GPS stays on the bike -- was your battery dieing because the GPS was removed? When I do remove the GPS the bike is always off. Interesting....
I would like clarification, too.
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:30 PM   #922
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Hmmm... the legendary BMW batter issue. This happened on my 2012 F650GS. I attached a GPS to the can-bus, everything ran fine for 3 months. Then one day, dead battery. Took the bike in (under warranty), dealer replaced the battery, then 5 days later battery dead again. Service didnt think it was the canbus (because its supposed to shut off after 1 min). I decided this was too much of an ongoing issue and purchased the GSW to fix the problem -lol!

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OK.
As it was explained to me...it goes like this.

BMW M/C put out a service bulletin within the last 10 days that stated that the GPS can-buss system needed to be re-calibrated and a part of that is the recommendation that when unplugging electronics from the OEM GPS plug that the bike be running so that the can-buss system knows, prior to shutdown, that there is nothing there to energize.

Otherwise the can-buss system will try to energize that plug while making it's normal rounds and if it doesn't find it initially it'll keep trying.
Which after a couple days uses enough of the battery that the bike won't start.

I somewhat understand the point and I'll certainly follow their directions although I still think that having to remove the GPS if the bike is going to sit for any length of time is a stupid requirement.

PS The bike had 12.66 volts when I picked it up.
As opposed to the 12.4 volts when they initially warranted it.
And the 13.1 volts the bike had when I tested it with the new replacement battery.

Now hopefully I can move my butt out of this less than desirable thread.
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:15 PM   #923
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Wait....in order to unlock the factory GPS you need the key in the bracket. So, how do you keep the engine running while disconnecting the GPS?

I'm confused....any chance we civilians can get a copy of the bulletin from the mother ship?
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:52 PM   #924
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They give you two keys....
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Old 10-08-2013, 06:25 PM   #925
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Wait....in order to unlock the factory GPS you need the key in the bracket. So, how do you keep the engine running while disconnecting the GPS?

I'm confused....any chance we civilians can get a copy of the bulletin from the mother ship?


Maybe..they over engineered the son of a bitch....

They can't make a headlight work..now they can't get the electric system to shut off when they take the key out...

Of course now..in standard BMW response.."idiot..you're doing it wrong..."

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Old 10-09-2013, 01:02 AM   #926
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Interseting..the joints are non servicable..they can not be greased...wonder what they did really...
Somebody else has said that. I'll maybe ask the question next time I go in
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Old 10-09-2013, 06:10 AM   #927
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You can use a syringe with a needle. It'll be kind of hit or miss but may add some grease in there. It'll probably fail sooner than it should regardless. You should request a new driveshaft. Good luck with that , though ! My dealer told me they don't like doing warranty work because they get paid a lot less than non warranty and they struggle with red tape trying to get things done. Makes for super duper customer service.
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:15 PM   #928
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Does your bike smoke (a lot) after it has been sitting for a while--and on the side stand. I know what is happening there, happens all the time in my '76, I just didn't think the tolerances would allow for that to happen on this beastie. After 5 days I made a hell of a cloud.
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:53 PM   #929
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Well the chief mechanic I know told me to always ignite the bike on center stand (or me on it), or else it will burn oil.

What this has to do with tolerances?
Much oil is on the left side not in its best viscosity temp. Then the engine violently starts and the oil pump has to look for it. :)
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Old 10-10-2013, 03:10 PM   #930
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Well the chief mechanic I know told me to always ignite the bike on center stand (or me on it), or else it will burn oil.

What this has to do with tolerances?
Much oil is on the left side not in its best viscosity temp. Then the engine violently starts and the oil pump has to look for it. :)
I'd say the chief could be right. Ignite that bike and ALL problems are solved :-)
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