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Old 11-20-2013, 01:41 AM   #1441
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Photoshop ?
If not, what happened ?

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Old 11-20-2013, 02:16 AM   #1442
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Photoshop ?
If not, what happened ?

this photo is from a Greek web site that sells cars, motorcycles, etc.
There are more photos and viewing them I understand the motorcycle was involved in an accident. By the way, the same says the owner in the website.
The owner sells it for 9000euro, at least this price he recommends and is under discussion.
Here are more photos:
http://www.car.gr/classifieds/bikes/photos/4351155/
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:32 AM   #1443
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Photoshop ?
If not, what happened ?

It is the extended wheelbase variant.
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:33 AM   #1444
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this photo is from a greek web site that sells cars, motorcycles, etc.
There are more photos and viewing them i understand the motorcycle was involved in an accident. By the way, the same says the owner in the website.
The owner sells it for 9000euro, at least this price he recommends and is under discussion.
Here are more photos:
http://www.car.gr/classifieds/bikes/photos/4351155/
yikes!
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:43 AM   #1445
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Brake pads

After reading Duffs post and more particularly
"Rear brake pads were found to be prematurely worn. Organic pads removed and replaced by sintered pads under warranty."
(I remember our bikes where delivered about the same date...)

Went out and checked mine.
@6300km (~3900miles) mine are "gone"
just a fraction and it will be metal to metal
I never use the rear brake... (the bike does itself so why should I...)

Contacted my dealer and they are unaware about brakepads being replaced under waranty (Belgium)

Can some of you please provide me details regarding the waranty replacement? (could help me to discuss the issue with my dealer)
(I don't think brakepads "should" be gone after that distance...)

Anyway, i'll have my pads replaced today!
(waranty discussions are to be taken care off later)
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:24 AM   #1446
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this photo is from a Greek web site that sells cars, motorcycles, etc.
There are more photos and viewing them I understand the motorcycle was involved in an accident. By the way, the same says the owner in the website.
The owner sells it for 9000euro, at least this price he recommends and is under discussion.
Here are more photos:
http://www.car.gr/classifieds/bikes/photos/4351155/
Nothing straight or lined up anymore on that bike... €9k? be lucky to get €2k for spares and scrap...
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:25 AM   #1447
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The rear brakes are interesting - I find I don’t use the rear brake much on this bike due to the combined braking function. I’m definitely not the first on here to have the factory pads replaced under warranty.
hmm wonder if this is a worldwide problem and what luck others have in getting them replaced. In Aus a lot of owners manuals state pads are a consumable and not covered by warranty.,
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:28 AM   #1448
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was the ESA calibration something we can do in the field? or did it require the BMW computer?
It was done while connected to the computer (from what was explained to me) to re-establish the baseline values for the 3 settings. My bike was occasionally not changing from solo to 2-up and the indicator would blink continuously despite nothing physically happening. After switching the ignition off and on a few times it would then work normally again. Since they have recalibrated the system it has been fine (although it was only a couple days ago!)
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:36 AM   #1449
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Nothing straight or lined up anymore on that bike... €9k? be lucky to get €2k for spares and scrap...
Looks like
a) a lowered unit
b) a long wheelbase (like the K1300R)

That makes it unique :-)
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:38 AM   #1450
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After reading Duffs post and more particularly
"Rear brake pads were found to be prematurely worn. Organic pads removed and replaced by sintered pads under warranty."
(I remember our bikes where delivered about the same date...)

Went out and checked mine.
@6300km (~3900miles) mine are "gone"
just a fraction and it will be metal to metal
I never use the rear brake... (the bike does itself so why should I...)

Contacted my dealer and they are unaware about brakepads being replaced under waranty (Belgium)

Can some of you please provide me details regarding the waranty replacement? (could help me to discuss the issue with my dealer)
(I don't think brakepads "should" be gone after that distance...)

Anyway, i'll have my pads replaced today!
(waranty discussions are to be taken care off later)
The dealership did this on their own accord without consulting me beforehand - it seems to be something done at their discretion as others have reported the same.

On my F800GS I go through rear brake pads every 4-5000km but I completely admit I'm very hard on them. They are so cheap to replace on that bike I never give it any worry. If I got 6,300km out of a set I'd be happy!! You may have trouble convincing them that this is unacceptably soon... but good luck all the same.

Interestingly I am also very hard on my front brakes and the pads seem to keep going and going (17000km on the 800 on the original pads with lots left on them). And no, I don't drag the rear brakes or rest my foot on the pedal while I ride as I normally keep my toes on the foot pegs well away from the lever.
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:40 AM   #1451
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Looks like
a) a lowered unit
b) a long wheelbase (like the K1300R)

That makes it unique :-)
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:48 AM   #1452
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Thanks - the tick doesn’t cause any operational issues, it just annoys me to hear it
I'm happy to have come across your post given that I just took delivery of my bike. I noticed the same thing and was going to call the dealer about it today, the sound is exactly as you say. I'll have to pay more attention but I could swear that it did eventually "go away" after some minutes at idle.

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Old 11-20-2013, 04:49 AM   #1453
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hmm wonder if this is a worldwide problem and what luck others have in getting them replaced. In Aus a lot of owners manuals state pads are a consumable and not covered by warranty.,
Same thing here, but I would also agree there is no way those pads should be worn out in less than 2000km of normal use... must be a head office announcement instructing dealerships to do this in certain situations. The 1200 is BMW's most premium product by volume (being their top selling model and among their most expensive bikes) which has among the largest profit margin - they don't want owners stuck at the side of the road (bad advertising and all that) and they seem to be more generous with warranty items than on their lower models. I've noticed a difference in the receptiveness of my dealership between my 1200 and 800 - they are always pleasant but must more willing and proactive when I mention any issues on the 1200.
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:58 AM   #1454
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I'm happy to have come across your post given that I just took delivery of my bike. I noticed the same thing and was going to call the dealer about it today, the sound is exactly as you say. I'll have to pay more attention but I could swear that it did eventually "go away" after some minutes at idle.

Thanks,
Mine does it primarily when the engine is fully warmed up (>85°C on the display) but this makes sense because the computer sets the idle according to the engine temperature (among various other parameters) and at this temperature it would be at its lowest idle - when the engine is cold the idle is slightly higher so of course the revs don't drop below the threshold where the decompression device opens/ticks.

What gives me more confidence is that it's not just the dealership mechanic's opinion but a statement from the engineers who designed the engine. And also this noise has been included as part of my bike's service record so if the engine blows up because of it 5 years down the road it opens the door to a gratis repair.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:09 AM   #1455
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After reading Duffs post and more particularly
"Rear brake pads were found to be prematurely worn. Organic pads removed and replaced by sintered pads under warranty."
(I remember our bikes where delivered about the same date...)

Went out and checked mine.
@6300km (~3900miles) mine are "gone"
just a fraction and it will be metal to metal
I never use the rear brake... (the bike does itself so why should I...)

Contacted my dealer and they are unaware about brakepads being replaced under waranty (Belgium)

Can some of you please provide me details regarding the waranty replacement? (could help me to discuss the issue with my dealer)
(I don't think brakepads "should" be gone after that distance...)

Anyway, i'll have my pads replaced today!
(waranty discussions are to be taken care off later)
I replaced a set of rear pads on a GS Wethead at 6K miles, they were down to barely over 1mm thickness left. The rider says he rarely uses the rear brake. I suggest his next set NOT be BMW pads.

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