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Old 11-19-2013, 11:22 AM   #1441
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response from bmw shop regarding the two campaigns:
"The throttle twist grip would malfunction on some motorcycles causing the bike to go into limp mode and not exceed 3000 rpm. The slave cylinder was an issue with a seal and that is also why the whole unit needed to be replaced."

shop only provided the campaign # for twist grip: "32 001 13 029"

these campaigns affected only select vin numbers.

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Can you please tell us anything more about those campaigns, particularly the slave master cylinder one? Did they give you the part number or anything like paperwork on the campaign?
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:39 AM   #1442
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Old 11-19-2013, 02:59 PM   #1443
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Couple minor issues - resolved

My 2014 is 2 1/2 months old now and I brought it to the dealership for a few things to be looked at:
  • Decompression device sporadically ticking at idle
  • ESA occasionally refusing to change preload modes requiring ignition to be cycled several times
  • Stiff release lever on GPS mount

Excellent service at my dealership (BMW Battersea) and they washed my bike. A summary of their responses to the issues above:
  • Engine function checked under warranty. The ticking at idle is a normal characteristic of this engine. The decompression device operates via centrifugal force and the idle speed is on the cusp of the rotational speed where the device activates/deactivates. I am assured by BMW technical in Germany that this will not cause long term issues and is entirely normal. Despite annoying me.
  • ESA preload settings were found to be slightly out of calibration which was causing the computer to occasionally be unable to determine the current position/status. System recalibrated under warranty and preload settings now change consistently (for now).
  • GPS mount replaced under warranty.
  • Rear brake pads were found to be prematurely worn. Organic pads removed and replaced by sintered pads under warranty.

During my last excursion which included about 50 miles of muddy byways/trails in Salisbury Plain, I somehow collected a strip of metal in my rear tyre which of course cut right down to the cords. No Anakee IIIs in the entire UK and French Michelin networks apparently. Managed to find one from a tyre distributor in Poland for £20 less than the cost in the UK (including courier charges). Getting this replaced on Saturday.

I should mention, I have nearly 1,500 miles on the bike and operationally it has not put a foot wrong. Amazing brakes and incredibly stable suspension both alone and 2-up - the front-end dive on my F800GS feels odd after the solidity of the 1200. The engine (despite ticking at idle) is smooth and perfectly mannered at all speeds, and always has more than enough power on tap. Fuel economy in the city is not great (my own fault as it’s too tempting to give it beans all the time) but on my trip to Salisbury Plain I got between 50 and 60mpg (UK). No unusual behaviour from any of the switches, cruise control etc. Really my only (minor) complaint is a slightly vague neutral but this seems to be the norm for the transmission on the K50. And the clutch engaged too sharply until the oil change at the first service, after which it has been perfectly smooth and progressive.
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:11 PM   #1444
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My 2014 is 2 1/2 months old now and I brought it to the dealership for a few things to be looked at:
  • Decompression device sporadically ticking at idle
  • ESA occasionally refusing to change preload modes requiring ignition to be cycled several times
  • Stiff release lever on GPS mount
Nice update - ta

I put organic pads on my GTR1400 and wore them out in 9000km. For $4 more I went back to sintered :-)

Good luck with the decompression "tick" and the ESA fix. Hopefully neither recur.
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:30 PM   #1445
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Nice update - ta

I put organic pads on my GTR1400 and wore them out in 9000km. For $4 more I went back to sintered :-)

Good luck with the decompression "tick" and the ESA fix. Hopefully neither recur.
Thanks - the tick doesn’t cause any operational issues, it just annoys me to hear it

It’s only been 2 days so too soon to tell if the preload adjustment still gets ‘confused’ - hopefully resolved for good. I change from solo to 2-up and vice versa very often so at least it’s not a matter of underuse and things getting seized up.

The rear brakes are interesting - I find I don’t use the rear brake much on this bike due to the combined braking function. I’m definitely not the first on here to have the factory pads replaced under warranty. On my 800 (with completely separate brakes) I am admittedly hard on the rear brake, because I use it to even out the dive from the front when braking, and also to adjust the lean angle in corners now and then - the 1200 has a lower centre of gravity and different handling so I don’t find I do this often, if at all, on it.
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:44 PM   #1446
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was the ESA calibration something we can do in the field? or did it require the BMW computer?
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:41 AM   #1447
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Photoshop ?
If not, what happened ?

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Old 11-20-2013, 02:16 AM   #1448
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Photoshop ?
If not, what happened ?

this photo is from a Greek web site that sells cars, motorcycles, etc.
There are more photos and viewing them I understand the motorcycle was involved in an accident. By the way, the same says the owner in the website.
The owner sells it for 9000euro, at least this price he recommends and is under discussion.
Here are more photos:
http://www.car.gr/classifieds/bikes/photos/4351155/
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:32 AM   #1449
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Photoshop ?
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It is the extended wheelbase variant.
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:33 AM   #1450
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this photo is from a greek web site that sells cars, motorcycles, etc.
There are more photos and viewing them i understand the motorcycle was involved in an accident. By the way, the same says the owner in the website.
The owner sells it for 9000euro, at least this price he recommends and is under discussion.
Here are more photos:
http://www.car.gr/classifieds/bikes/photos/4351155/
yikes!
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:43 AM   #1451
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Brake pads

After reading Duffs post and more particularly
"Rear brake pads were found to be prematurely worn. Organic pads removed and replaced by sintered pads under warranty."
(I remember our bikes where delivered about the same date...)

Went out and checked mine.
@6300km (~3900miles) mine are "gone"
just a fraction and it will be metal to metal
I never use the rear brake... (the bike does itself so why should I...)

Contacted my dealer and they are unaware about brakepads being replaced under waranty (Belgium)

Can some of you please provide me details regarding the waranty replacement? (could help me to discuss the issue with my dealer)
(I don't think brakepads "should" be gone after that distance...)

Anyway, i'll have my pads replaced today!
(waranty discussions are to be taken care off later)
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:24 AM   #1452
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this photo is from a Greek web site that sells cars, motorcycles, etc.
There are more photos and viewing them I understand the motorcycle was involved in an accident. By the way, the same says the owner in the website.
The owner sells it for 9000euro, at least this price he recommends and is under discussion.
Here are more photos:
http://www.car.gr/classifieds/bikes/photos/4351155/
Nothing straight or lined up anymore on that bike... €9k? be lucky to get €2k for spares and scrap...
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:25 AM   #1453
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The rear brakes are interesting - I find I don’t use the rear brake much on this bike due to the combined braking function. I’m definitely not the first on here to have the factory pads replaced under warranty.
hmm wonder if this is a worldwide problem and what luck others have in getting them replaced. In Aus a lot of owners manuals state pads are a consumable and not covered by warranty.,
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:28 AM   #1454
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was the ESA calibration something we can do in the field? or did it require the BMW computer?
It was done while connected to the computer (from what was explained to me) to re-establish the baseline values for the 3 settings. My bike was occasionally not changing from solo to 2-up and the indicator would blink continuously despite nothing physically happening. After switching the ignition off and on a few times it would then work normally again. Since they have recalibrated the system it has been fine (although it was only a couple days ago!)
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:36 AM   #1455
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Nothing straight or lined up anymore on that bike... €9k? be lucky to get €2k for spares and scrap...
Looks like
a) a lowered unit
b) a long wheelbase (like the K1300R)

That makes it unique :-)
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