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Old 02-23-2014, 11:28 PM   #46
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It's easy you could do it for sure, put three irons in the bead a few inches apart, push down the outer two and pry up with the middle one it's the same principle as the MP units.
Yeah, right-- I'll believe that and alchemy work when I see it actually happen.

I have had nothing but bad luck working with the rear tires on my bike: I have broken or discarded several lauded and well-regarded tools attempting to do so, and have been seriously considering the unfortunate but prudent prospect of giving up backcountry travel (the very reason I bought a 990) because if I flat a tire out there, I have no way to fix it.

I have seen this MP bead breaker favorably reviewed in a national magazine, and I've seen it offered for sale at KTM Twins. I hope it works because it may well be the last hope I've got for breaking a bead away from the 5' bar & trailer spare that I know work for me, and I know painfully well the quoted method doesn't work.

Meanwhile, I'll read on & decide whether I want to purchase yet another bead-breaking tool...
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Old 02-24-2014, 02:51 AM   #47
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Yeah, right-- I'll believe that and alchemy work when I see it actually happen.

I have had nothing but bad luck working with the rear tires on my bike: I have broken or discarded several lauded and well-regarded tools attempting to do so, and have been seriously considering the unfortunate but prudent prospect of giving up backcountry travel (the very reason I bought a 990) because if I flat a tire out there, I have no way to fix it.

I have seen this MP bead breaker favorably reviewed in a national magazine, and I've seen it offered for sale at KTM Twins. I hope it works because it may well be the last hope I've got for breaking a bead away from the 5' bar & trailer spare that I know work for me, and I know painfully well the quoted method doesn't work.

Meanwhile, I'll read on & decide whether I want to purchase yet another bead-breaking tool...
I have done with the side and center stands - not a big fan of either method, they work but are awkward imho. I have used the tyrepliers - okay but slow.

Short of a lever based bead breaker the MP tools are fantastic. Some times you need to take a couple goes at it about 6" apart but they work. I have even used them on cold day in NFL on K60s, which was a horrid tyre change.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:51 PM   #48
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Yeah, right-- I'll believe that and alchemy work when I see it actually happen.

Ahhh ya got me, I totally made it up, pulled it straight outta my ass!Open your mind and give it a try.


Here's a man in flip flops practicing a bit of alchemy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbe2P1gN_PM
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Old 02-24-2014, 03:11 PM   #49
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Ahhh ya got me, I totally made it up, pulled it straight outta my ass!Open your mind and give it a try.


Here's a man in flip flops practicing a bit of alchemy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbe2P1gN_PM
Nice - I have wondered about that one.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:07 PM   #50
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Ahhh ya got me, I totally made it up, pulled it straight outta my ass!Open your mind and give it a try.


Here's a man in flip flops practicing a bit of alchemy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbe2P1gN_PM
I've spent enough of my hard-earned scratch on snake oil bead breakers & shed enough blood pursuing various "sure thing!" bead breaking techniques that yet another glibly posted is not enough to sway me, especially if I've already tried it.

I've seen that vid, BTW, and did my best impersonation with little satisfaction to show for it.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:15 PM   #51
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I have done with the side and center stands - not a big fan of either method, they work but are awkward imho. I have used the tyrepliers - okay but slow.

Short of a lever based bead breaker the MP tools are fantastic. Some times you need to take a couple goes at it about 6" apart but they work. I have even used them on cold day in NFL on K60s, which was a horrid tyre change.
I can't get very enthusiastic about the side-stand technique for two reasons: I don't fancy adding broken mirrors, levers, or turn signals to my list of problems because I've lost balance and tipped the bike over, and I have a Camel Toe on the stand that would have to be removed.

As for Tyre Pliers, all they did was squeeze the side walls together, leaving the bead right where it was, and relieving me of $80 for the privilege. I think they landed in the dumpster.

Thanks for the additional info on the MP-- I might actually buy one.
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Old 02-24-2014, 11:11 PM   #52
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As for Tyre Pliers, all they did was squeeze the side walls together, leaving the bead right where it was, and relieving me of $80 for the privilege. I think they landed in the dumpster.

Thanks for the additional info on the MP-- I might actually buy one.
The TyrePliers require a little trick to work - you need to get a tyre lever, lever the bead down and put the tips as far as you can get them in, also operate them from the rim side.

Even with the MP breakers you need to the tips right un the edge of the rim.
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Old 02-26-2014, 03:31 AM   #53
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I believe I did position those Tyrepliers on the rim side, but I did not try to employ any other device in an effort to make them work. I'm not very patient with tools that don't live up to their billing.

I did, however, order the MP bead breaker; we'll see how it goes, I guess...
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Old 03-01-2014, 01:00 PM   #54
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Good info

I purchased a set of the Motion Pro Bead Breakers for my 990 and always wondered how well they would work so it is nice reading the positive responses. Good stuff.
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:38 AM   #55
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I bought the aluminum shorties and just tried them yesterday on a Shinko e700 that I had mounted on an Excel 2.5" wide rim with the safety hump. Working them around the rim while dabbing in RuGlyde popped the tire off without drama. I was impressed. The replacement D606 went on pretty easily with the T-6 combo lever and the spooned ends of the BeadPros (BTW it popped up on the rim w/ 32 psi and balanced w/ 1/4 oz.)

I'm gonna spring for the longer steelies to keep in the shop.
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:29 AM   #56
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I've had good luck with these in my garage.
Broke the bead on the OEM Scorpions, and on the first set of 908RR's.
Good stuff.
I have yet to need them trailside. I hope that record continues.

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Old 10-31-2014, 08:40 AM   #57
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I bought the aluminum shorties and it's the only pair I have. They fit neatly into my Moose Racing Rear Rack Bag so I never leave home without them. I've used them twice in the middle of nowhere as well as in my garage on the stock Pirelli Scorps, a front Michelin T63, and rear Mefo Super Explorer. I managed to pinch a stock tube and ruin it during an install and their edges will scratch your rims. This is probably a reflection of how deft I am at using them and not of the product itself. Otherwise they work great and I never have a problem breaking a bead.
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Old 10-31-2014, 06:59 PM   #58
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I bought a set of the long steelies a while back just to try for myself. They work on every tire and rim combo except for the rear rim from the 04 Adventure with a Heidenau K60...... the K60 laughed and said, "is that all you got!" Had to take it to the arbor press to break the bead. I'm convinced (as are others) the early Adventures have a larger safety bead.

I can break the Scorps lose with work boots fairly easy.
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:21 PM   #59
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Have the shorty Aluminum MP and have had great success even on the K60 with my 06 Adv. and a 1200 GS I have for years just use 3 12" tire irons two prying down and one up on the bead works on all my bikes
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:04 PM   #60
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I've had good luck with these in my garage.
Broke the bead on the OEM Scorpions, and on the first set of 908RR's.
Good stuff.
I have yet to need them trailside. I hope that record continues.

I have the same setup, minus the bead buddy. I even have the same sock. Smartwool Mountaineer I believe.

My buddy Mike has the bead breaker also. And he's a farmer and the cheapest SOB you'll ever meet. Not KLR cheap, but not to far from it though.

I signed up for the Riff Raff a few years back, when Jonah was racing. Got a coupon for 50% off Motion Pro Tools. I ordered one of almost everything in the catalog. I love their stuff.

These tire spoons are great as well.

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