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Old 06-13-2012, 08:39 AM   #1
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difference between 990 and 990 R?

sorry, i am a 990 noob... what is the difference between the 990 and 990 R? seems to be just suspension travel/ride height? is it just a spring swap? if i get the normal 990, can i make it an R on the cheap? again, sorry about my noobness...
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:47 AM   #2
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sorry, i am a 990 noob... what is the difference between the 990 and 990 R? seems to be just suspension travel/ride height? is it just a spring swap? if i get the normal 990, can i make it an R on the cheap? again, sorry about my noobness...
The internal cartridge length on the front is different, so no quick way to get R suspension travel. The rear requires just a spacer (but also requires you to know how to work on a WP shock).

Other differences are no ABS on the R and a different ECU tune on the R that is supposed to net more peak HP.
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:52 AM   #3
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Suspension travel/height and the bike's color scheme are different. I think 990 R's don't come with ABS but I could be wrong.

There's a few more bits to swap out to bring a regular adventure up to the 'R' spec. I'd just by the R if you want more travel/height, unless you wanted ABS.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:25 AM   #4
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990R has more suspension travel, more power and no ABS. Increasing travel to R specs $$$$

http://superplushsuspension.com/a-raising.htm

2007-On Raising*

Forks:
Revalving (full service included): $250.00
Fork Springs (.52 to .70): $119.99
KTM Replacement Cartridge rods, longer (2): $190.68 (for both)
KTM replacement adjustment tubes (2): $30.12 (for both)
KTM replacement cartridge tubes (2): $230.00 (for both)
KTM replacement hydraulic stops (2): $114.00 (for both)
Oil: $26.00
Fork Labor (raising): $50.00
TOTAL: $1077.18

Shock:
Revalving (full service included): $200.00
Stretch Labor: $50.00
Oil: $28.00
Spring 265mm: $139.00
Rebound Shim to Reset Height: $36.00
Seal $14.00

TOTAL: $467.00 (subtract $100 if not revalving shock)

TOTAL Forks and Shock: $1544.18 (subtract $100 if not revalving shock)
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:49 AM   #5
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Get the R, I just got the adventure and I should have got the R. Changing to R suspension is a little complicated and requires a lot of different parts, you need a differed kickstand, center stand, and the lowers on the forks need to be changed. I asked super plush to give me a quote on raising my adv and it was 1500 and about 600 for valving. That's about the cost difference between the two. I plan on riding gnarly off road, if you feel you are just going to do fire roads and moderate off road then the adv height will be fine. I'm pretty sure I am going to bottom out with my adv since I already have.

IMO the only reason you should buy the adv over the R is if you want ABS. I am having a little buyers remorse about it.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:50 AM   #6
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990R has more suspension travel, more power and no ABS. Increasing travel to R specs $$$$

http://superplushsuspension.com/a-raising.htm

2007-On Raising*

Forks:
Revalving (full service included): $250.00
Fork Springs (.52 to .70): $119.99
KTM Replacement Cartridge rods, longer (2): $190.68 (for both)
KTM replacement adjustment tubes (2): $30.12 (for both)
KTM replacement cartridge tubes (2): $230.00 (for both)
KTM replacement hydraulic stops (2): $114.00 (for both)
Oil: $26.00
Fork Labor (raising): $50.00
TOTAL: $1077.18

Shock:
Revalving (full service included): $200.00
Stretch Labor: $50.00
Oil: $28.00
Spring 265mm: $139.00
Rebound Shim to Reset Height: $36.00
Seal $14.00

TOTAL: $467.00 (subtract $100 if not revalving shock)

TOTAL Forks and Shock: $1544.18 (subtract $100 if not revalving shock)
Well theres the numbers
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:14 AM   #7
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i am sure this is a completely different debate, but i prefer no ABS and a taller ground clearance, so it sounds like i need/want the R. sucks, because the 990 i was looking at for cheap is a non R.

thanks for the info.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:45 AM   #8
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I just got my R other day and cant wait to have a good bash with it on the loose surface. There seems to be lots to learn about suspension settings. Had GSA previously (before my last bike which was K1600GT?!) Adjusting settings was made too easy on those bikes. I think i have to carry manual with me for a while. Has anybody got any suggestions for taller screen, KTM touring-screen only choice? Will be doing lots of on otr with two up so taller screen would be nicer. Looking for ergo seat too...i think this seat will make my ass numb in no time. And before you ask...no, i have no plans to modify this R into GW.
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:11 AM   #9
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May or may not be important to you but the R has a one year warranty and the S has a two year...apparently the R types are harder on equipment than the S'...
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Old 06-16-2012, 07:01 PM   #10
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just a little side note but for you americans it may or may not be cheaper especially since you have a shop in california and most of you ship your stuff to superplush. But there is a company in British Columbia calls Riders Edge suspension that also does the R spec upgrade to the KTM 950 suspension and i think it was 1200$ or so but don't quote me because i really do forget. That was for me to get my stuff revalved and resprung and all that stuff to R spec. They were very helpful as well. Just saying that there is another option out there.

www.ridersedgesuspension.com

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Old 06-16-2012, 07:09 PM   #11
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As people have said the suspension is better more power but your looking at spending more money. Personally the 990 is still great but if you want something bigger more power then the 990r.
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Old 06-17-2012, 04:41 PM   #12
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Just be aware that the 2010 rear suspension if 245mm, and the 2011/2012 rear is only 225mm. The 2008 S is 265mm.... Ignore what the catalog says, this is based on me removing the shocks and reading what the spring stamp says.

The forks are correct as advertised: 2010 = 265mm and 2011 = 245mm.

The suspension travel makes a big difference, says someone who has a 2011 R and have swapped it with a 2008 S suspension, and never looked back...



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Old 06-17-2012, 05:55 PM   #13
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Get the R, you wont regret

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IM3e...1&feature=plcp

If you get the regular 990, you wont regret either

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Old 06-17-2012, 05:55 PM   #14
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Just be aware that the 2010 rear suspension if 245mm, and the 2011/2012 rear is only 225mm. The 2008 S is 265mm.... Ignore what the catalog says, this is based on me removing the shocks and reading what the spring stamp says.

The forks are correct as advertised: 2010 = 265mm and 2011 = 245mm.

The suspension travel makes a big difference, says someone who has a 2011 R and have swapped it with a 2008 S suspension, and never looked back...



That is a pretty looking nice bike. Congrats.
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Old 06-17-2012, 06:17 PM   #15
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differences

Paint scheme
Suspension height
Abs
HP
Warranty

Reality....
What color do you like?
Most riders will rework suspension valving so cost to raise vs cost of standard R may offset?
HP simple r map upgrade
Waranty yep two years standard one year R

So it really comes down to abs, as converting to non abs requires a different dash.
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