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Old 05-10-2013, 03:31 PM   #31
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How about the town of Morrison, CO annexing a section of land not even attached to their town, so they can write road tax bills.

http://goo.gl/maps/kP71O

That's pretty wily. Just do a google search for morrison, co speed trap.
Yep--this the spot where it drops from highway speed to town speed in a relatively short distance? Nailed my dad there as he was slowing down and called it reckless driving. If I hadn't spent 16 years riding around at 5 under the limit with him at the wheel I would've believed the cop but these guys were assholes every step of the way to my dad. Stay away from Morrison if you can help it.
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Old 05-10-2013, 03:37 PM   #32
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Eastbound on Van Born-- you curve up and over the Southfield freeway and the cop is sitting at that church just past Anne Rd. writing 20mph over tickets all day long.

Allen Park, Michigan Speed Trap
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Old 05-10-2013, 03:44 PM   #33
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I got nabbed last year in Plainsboro, NJ.

A week after school was out I had accelerated to about 40 in what was marked as a 35/25 when children are present, and got caught in a trap being run by about 5 LEOs.

When I politely challenged the LEO about the limit, his first answer was that they were "protecting the school zone." When I remarked that school was out and the officer handling the radar gun was hiding (no pedestrians in sight) he smirked and got short with me, saying the speed limit was 25 and had been for years.

I scheduled my court date and took lots and lots of pictures. When I showed up in court, the pictures clearly showed that the 25 signs were occluded by trees and vegetation and were within 30 feet of clearly marked "25 when children are present" signs...all in an otherwise 35 mph zone. There were other factors involved but I don't want to write a thesis...

I had also called the state engineer at this point and registered a complaint. The engineer agreed that the signage was vague if not misleading and, in the case of the speed trap, being milked inappropriately.

Central Jersey is notorious for aggressively collecting revenue off tickets, however, and the prosecutor wanted his fine but was willing to write the ticket based on a 35 zone instead of 25......I punked out and took the deal

A few lessons:

-If I had hired a lawyer I would probably have gotten no ticket
-Always show up and fight, even if it is pro se.....be polite and professional
-Don't try and reason with the LEO, at least not in speed trap circumstances, as they may take it personally as they have their 'mission' that day
-LEOs are allowed to twist the truth, another reason not to engage them
-Do your research..the law is not designed to be fair and they see more blatant liars in court than you can imagine

You can bet that all the other people getting pulled over in that trap (nearly half the people I saw go through while I was pulled over) were getting ticketed at the 25 mph rate.

A couple of months later the town fixed the signage and I have yet to see a LEO in that alley since. Why? Because I and maybe a handful of others did our homework, called the state, and fought back.

The law is a process and the LEOs and court personnel are only executors. It is up to the people to protect themselves and effect cha.
Ha, that reminds me a few years ago I was visiting a friend who lived outside Savannah and we went shooting at a state owned public range, one of those 'put your 2 bucks in the envelope' places. Several other people there as well and we hadn't even unloaded the car yet and a Sheriff shows up and starts handing everyone 120$ tickets for shooting at a closed range. Not to argue with a cop when a bunch of people are standing around with guns, but I politely told him we hadn't even got the firearms out of the car yet and what's this about the range being closed? I swear to God he laughed at me, walked 20 feet off into the woods, and pointed to a rusty sign that said "range closed first Tuesday of the month" or something like that.

I took a picture of the sign and needless to say, in court the judge let us off, and lit into the cop. It was hard not to smirk.
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Old 05-10-2013, 03:59 PM   #34
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Eastbound on Van Born-- you curve up and over the Southfield freeway and the cop is sitting at that church just past Anne Rd. writing 20mph over tickets all day long.

Allen Park, Michigan Speed Trap
The city of Allen Park is almost broke. Be very careful everywhere.
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:37 PM   #35
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In the town where I grew up a favored trick at night was to tailgate someone with their brights on. Speed up to get away and out come the flashers.

Pulling over didn't work so hot either, a few feet farther up the road you'd pass the cop and he'd be right back on your ass with the highs going.

As I was doing absolutely nothing wrong I played high beam hopscotch with one for about two hours one night.


I think I'll just go away and quit remembering how much shit like this pisses me off now.
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:02 PM   #36
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summersville,_West_Virginia

Love the last part.
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:28 PM   #37
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The city of Allen Park is almost broke. Be very careful everywhere.
I moved to Arizona about 6 years ago and got that ticket 10 years ago. Aside from the occasional photo radar, when compared to MI and Ohio, Johnny Law in AZ doesn't seem too concerned about revenue generation.
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:37 PM   #38
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They'd never generate any revenue if they stopped writing tickets for the same stupid shit THEY do every day. Oh , but they're there to save us from ourselves. Who's going to save us from them?
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:48 PM   #39
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The funniest one I heard of was on a stationary radar camera car (we call 'em Flash for Cash) in Brisbane, Queensland.
Some young guys pulled up and took the plates off the camera car and put 'em on their own car and proceeded to drive back and forth past the radar trap at excessive speed with the flash for cash taking pictures of its own plates .... cute!
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:41 PM   #40
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Thanks for heads up Eric2

Outskirts of dfw at night they like hide with their light completely off but the radar detector goes off. They have all blacked out or all white out cars along with usual cruiser.
During the day way inside a private parking lot from 100 to 150 yards away.

What I don't understand how this is not entrapment.

That is just dirty tactics.
In criminal law, entrapment is conduct by a law enforcement agent inducing a person to commit an offense that the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit.[1] In many jurisdictions, entrapment is a possible defense against criminal liability.

If your speeding, cop around or not you are already speeding and committing an offence. If they had a hot female officer in some hot clothes ask for a ride on the back of your bike and grabs your throttle to make you go faster then her coworker pulls you over and she gets off and introduces herself as a police officer. That would probably be entrapment.
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:42 PM   #41
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Thanks for heads up Eric2

Outskirts of dfw at night they like hide with their light completely off but the radar detector goes off.

They do this right outside of Granbury on 377, pitch black no city lights or streetlights anywhere, right over a hill, and just on the shoulder barely over the solid white. 70 mph speed limit with big rigs and plenty of drunks. I am surprised more of them don't get killed! Not too bright if you ask me.
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:48 AM   #42
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In criminal law, entrapment is conduct by a law enforcement agent inducing a person to commit an offense that the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit.[1] In many jurisdictions, entrapment is a possible defense against criminal liability.

If your speeding, cop around or not you are already speeding and committing an offence. If they had a hot female officer in some hot clothes ask for a ride on the back of your bike and grabs your throttle to make you go faster then her coworker pulls you over and she gets off and introduces herself as a police officer. That would probably be entrapment.

Then how do they get away with posing female LEO's as prostitutes?

Would it be dependant on entrapment laws in a certain area?

Always thought that was kind of messed up, busting lonely dudes just wanting to get them a little booty.
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:25 AM   #43
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I-5 by the Boeing factory in Everett there is a boat yard that always gives my radar detector a false alarm. Yesterday the state troopers had a radar trap set up there. Those that use a gps radar detector that can mark and ignore known false alarms got a surprise that day?
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:19 PM   #44
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I think Summersville made about $600K one year in speeding fines. I used to drive thru there every weekend and the speed limit jumps from 40 to 65 to 50 to 45 and so on.

One town in NC that I was in had a cop that would park his Crown Vic on the Ford dealer's lot among the other Crown Vics.
No lights on top and he blended right in at night, four lane road in front of him with a 45 mph limit and a few bars along it.

OH highway patrol used to park a car on I70 with a dummy in it. Same place all the time.
Worked well until someone broke the side window out and took the mannequin, uniform top, radios and what ever else they could steal out of the car late at night.

Guess they should have kept a closer eye on it.
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:44 PM   #45
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I have seen 2 that work well out here:

1) sitting on the top road of a freeway overpass and radaring down the freeway below, radioing ahead to awaiting units to pull you over
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We drove from MD to CO to go skiing. We brought a pair of binoculars and the co-drivers job was to scan bridge overpasses as soon as they became visible. It's so flat you can see them from well over a mile away. We saw three.

On Rt 93 North a few miles into NH, a cruiser will be parked on the side of the road a few miles into the state from MA. Two miles up the road they will park another, who gets plenty of business.

The MSP used to set up at the base of the hill on the Tobin bridge inbound. The. Speed limit was 30 and they would grab 2-3 cars at a time. The speed limit is now 45.

At the Ted Williams Tunnel inbound, the MSP will set up with a laser about 50 feet past the EZPass lanes. The ramp goes downhill so they are not visible and the speed limit is 15mph. They will do this late afternoons, usually 3 or 4 pm.
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