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Old 05-13-2013, 12:53 PM   #31
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If it fits then you can use it, if all you have is tube tyre then put a tube in, it will be fine, I have the Same tkc 80's on my BMW with tubless rims and my KTM 990 with tubes in, neither cause any problem, and have done same with Heidnau's and others.
I am not sure the wheels on these will take a tube. I think the centre of the rim is sealed from the rest of the rim and hole for the valve stem is off centre. But there are a number of tubeless tyres available and if you have use one with a lower speed rating then so be it. Just dont ride at 260km/h.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:07 PM   #32
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Dont wish to be rude, but you need to get out of Germany TUV mode. The rest of the world dont care what tyre you put on the bike.
If your after off road type tyres then the speed rating is not and issue, if going fast is an issue then you wont be using off road tyres.
If it fits then you can use it, if all you have is tube tyre then put a tube in, it will be fine, I have the Same tkc 80's on my BMW with tubless rims and my KTM 990 with tubes in, neither cause any problem, and have done same with Heidnau's and others.
Again - tube tires are not possible on the 1190 adventure rim. This is because the hole for the tube is not in center of the rim. Maybe there is special tubes for that or a normal tube will do. If it works - I don't have a Problem. And TÜV - I don't care in SA.... ;-)
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I am not sure the wheels on these will take a tube. I think the centre of the rim is sealed from the rest of the rim and hole for the valve stem is off centre. But there are a number of tubeless tyres available and if you have use one with a lower speed rating then so be it. Just dont ride at 260km/h.
Ok - I see. Good to know that there are tires available. I will bring 2 back tires and 1 front tire with me anyhow. This ones will be keept in Santiago. So I have plenty of ruber for the beginning and time to check out the market down there. ;-)


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Leo, almost all the tires for the 990 (150/70/18, same size your 1190R needs) are tubeless. In a 990 we need to use a tube inside because the rim is not sealed, but the tire is still a tubeless type.
So, you can choose between Scorpions A/T, TKC80, Heidenau K60, Karoos... all of them are tubeless and all of them are easy to find in Santiago, I think the only brands missing here are Mitas and Mefo.
Ask your dealer there to confirm that these tires would work, and report back or contact any of us (Chilean residents) so we can confirm in advance that there is availability for the tire you wish. No need to fly with lots of stuff that is very likely is available down here.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:38 PM   #35
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Leo, almost all the tires for the 990 (150/70/18, same size your 1190R needs) are tubeless. In a 990 we need to use a tube inside because the rim is not sealed, but the tire is still a tubeless type.
So, you can choose between Scorpions A/T, TKC80, Heidenau K60, Karoos... all of them are tubeless and all of them are easy to find in Santiago, I think the only brands missing here are Mitas and Mefo.
Ask your dealer there to confirm that these tires would work, and report back or contact any of us (Chilean residents) so we can confirm in advance that there is availability for the tire you wish. No need to fly with lots of stuff that is very likely is available down here.
Ok - thanks - now I understand how it is. So my German fellows are just waiting for the tires with the higher speed index to hit the Autobahn. ;-)
So no problem for me in Chile! I got it!

Bye the way - interessting that there a so many Chilieans around. ;-)
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Hi

did enyone ever use this kind of analyzing tool for the KTM. I am sure it is also available outside Germany.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Diagnose-Serv...item1c250b1962

http://www.tuneecu.com/

I thought this would be a smart investment too!

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did enyone ever use this kind of analyzing tool for the KTM. I am sure it is also available outside Germany.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Diagnose-Serv...item1c250b1962

http://www.tuneecu.com/

I thought this would be a smart investment too!

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There is an extensive thread on this here http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=633558 and the cables can be had much cheaper here http://www.cjdesignsllc.com/products...r-ktm-engines/
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There is an extensive thread on this here http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=633558 and the cables can be had much cheaper here http://www.cjdesignsllc.com/products...r-ktm-engines/

Awesome - thanks! I will go through this!
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So no problem for me in Chile! I got it!
I think you just need to choose between the Scorpion MT90 A/T, K60 and the stock Trail Attack unless you plan to ride lots of dirt roads. Any other tire won't last...
If you can confirm the 1190R will be fine with these tires, we'll confirm its availability. I think I already saw a pic of a 1190R with a rear Scorp in this forum.
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I think you just need to choose between the Scorpion MT90 A/T, K60 and the stock Trail Attack unless you plan to ride lots of dirt roads. Any other tire won't last...
If you can confirm the 1190R will be fine with these tires, we'll confirm its availability. I think I already saw a pic of a 1190R with a rear Scorp in this forum.
What about the TKC80? I used that one a lot on my BMW GS 1150.... But otherwiese the Heidenau will be a good joice.

I bet the Scorp was the one on Joe Pichlers Motorbike. He changed the rim for that. So he could use the 140 Scorp on the 1190... The time he started the Africa trip there was no tires available. He used the rim of the super enduro.

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What about the TKC80? I used that one a lot on my BMW GS 1150.... But otherwiese the Heidenau will be a good joice.

I bet the Scorp was the one on Joe Pichlers Motorbike. He changed the rim for that. So he could use the 140 Scorp on the 1190... The time he started the Africa trip there was no tires available. He used the rim of the super enduro.

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Joe's tire was a Scorpion Rally or something like that. It's narrower, maybe a 140 (so he needed a narrow rim) and tube type. It's not the kind of tire you want unless you plan to ride just offroad...it won't last travelling on tarmac on a heavy 150 HP bike.
I was referring to the Scorpion A/T, the one that comes stock on the 990. It's a decent tire off road, but not a knobby tire by any means so still works on road.
I took a look at TKCs and it seems the 150/70/18 is a tube type tire so it won't work.
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Joe's tire was a Scorpion Rally or something like that. It's narrower, maybe a 140 (so he needed a narrow rim) and tube type. It's not the kind of tire you want unless you plan to ride just offroad...it won't last travelling on tarmac on a heavy 150 HP bike.
I was referring to the Scorpion A/T, the one that comes stock on the 990. It's a decent tire off road, but not a knobby tire by any means so still works on road.
I took a look at TKCs and it seems the 150/70/18 is a tube type tire so it won't work.
Hmmm - I am not a serious offroad rider but I like fast gravel roads. So some knobbies would be nice. The Heidenau would then be the better joice... But well - in the end it doesn't matter so much. More importand is the operational performance.

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Do you have a picture from this device! I got no idea how this looks like.

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It's just a funnel with a filter on top that won't even allow water to pass through...it's well known at the States....
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Ok - thanks - now I understand how it is. So my German fellows are just waiting for the tires with the higher speed index to hit the Autobahn. ;-)
So no problem for me in Chile! I got it!

Bye the way - interessting that there a so many Chilieans around. ;-)
He`s not a Chileno Martin, he`s a bloody spaniard . Me neither, I am a Brit, but we do enjoy a whisky or 5 together

There are hundreds (500+) of 990ADV`s here in Chile so as Goti rightly points out there is a good range of tyres available, and most of them are tubeless. I reckon the std (for a 990) Pirelli Scorpions are the best all round bet for the tarmac and gravel roads here in Chile. There are not many places you will be able to stretch the 1190`s legs fully to 260kph anyway.

I am not sure about the possibility of putting a tube in if the hole is offset, that sounds dodgy to me. I have already had issues on the rear with the valve detaching from the tube. In an emergency if you couldnt do a tubeless fix you could always drill the rim centrally in order to fit a tube, but that would mean going tubed forever as you would lose the seal.

In any case, Santiago awaits you with a warm welcome, just let us know when you are on approach. PM me or Goti.

Cheers, and good luck amigo

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I think you just need to choose between the Scorpion MT90 A/T, K60 and the stock Trail Attack unless you plan to ride lots of dirt roads. Any other tire won't last...
If you can confirm the 1190R will be fine with these tires, we'll confirm its availability. I think I already saw a pic of a 1190R with a rear Scorp in this forum.
Just a thought...It is a minimum of 3500kms from Santiago to Ushuaia so 7,000kms round trip, probably more like 8,000+. There is not much tyre availability down south unless you get them sent from Santiago (and you cant do this into Argentina, and tyre choice there is much more limited). Fully loaded up and with 150hp on tap I reckon the only rear tyre that will stand a serious chance of going the distance would be a Heidenau K60, which is tubeless. I would recommend you fit one before you come and you can also buy those here in Santiago, but only from time to time. They suck on the tarmac though in my opinion as they square off and the handling goes strange. Decisions, decisions...oh what fun!
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