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Old 05-12-2013, 10:06 AM   #31
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I understand why it appears this way to other inmates, I'll clarify.

I've run bikes with duct tape holding things on, oil leaks, crap electrics and such. But I didn't pay $12,000 for them. The price vs experience is the issue here.
It shouldn't have made it on the showroom floor with that issue. It doesn't matter how cheap or easy it is to replace the gasket. I'd throw a brake rotor through the dealer's window.
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Old 05-12-2013, 10:52 AM   #32
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Old 05-12-2013, 11:27 AM   #33
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(the first was a Rotax powered boat)
Thats a bit like getting an Evinrude powered truck.
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Old 05-12-2013, 11:34 AM   #34
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Thats a bit like getting an Evinrude powered truck.
Rotax supplies several hundred thousand boat/watercraft motors per year to various manufacturers, primarily BRP (SEA DOO).

They are supposed to be the best of the best for jet propulsion. My experience was different (blew up from "Oil Starvation") but the oil level was correct and I checked it before each outing.
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Old 05-12-2013, 12:38 PM   #35
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Rotax supplies several hundred thousand boat/watercraft motors per year to various manufacturers, primarily BRP (SEA DOO).

They are supposed to be the best of the best for jet propulsion. My experience was different (blew up from "Oil Starvation") but the oil level was correct and I checked it before each outing.
Not to mention the Rotax/BMW codevelopment jobby in the F-series—actually a fantastic engine.
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Old 05-12-2013, 02:47 PM   #36
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a $600 repair here. The bike has an oil leak, but the coil, plug wire, etc. all were working before and should continue to work once the oil leak is fixed. So a new spark plug gasket, possibly a new valve cover gasket, and possibly some minor cosmetic clean up.

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Old 05-12-2013, 03:11 PM   #37
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I feel your pain OP.

With that said, it appears to be a relatively simple fix, which the dealer should fall all over himself to rectify. If it was something major - like something actually broken - I'd be right there with you on not wanting to keep the bike. But with this.....let them fix it, and see if you can shame them into giving you new pants.


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Old 05-12-2013, 03:21 PM   #38
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a $600 repair here. The bike has an oil leak, but the coil, plug wire, etc. all were working before and should continue to work once the oil leak is fixed. So a new spark plug gasket, possibly a new valve cover gasket, and possibly some minor cosmetic clean up.

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You suspect the dealership made the mistake and they are going to charge you for the repair? Is that an accurate assessment, or do you not know yet?

If this is accurate I don't care who you went to high school with they are unethical and do not deserve your business.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:33 PM   #39
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You suspect the dealership made the mistake and they are going to charge you for the repair? Is that an accurate assessment, or do you not know yet?

If this is accurate I don't care who you went to high school with they are unethical and do not deserve your business.

You are quoting the wrong guy. I am the guy with the problem, the other poster was telling me that the cost would be lower.

To be clear, again, I trust this dealership, this is a mistake not intentional. I trust they will repair it, but it seems the design is poor if it is that easy to goof it up.

It would be in their best interest to take it back as I want them too, as I am purchasing 3 motorcycles this summer. They don't want to cross them off my list of potential sources (and the lines they carry).
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:38 PM   #40
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It shouldn't have made it on the showroom floor with that issue. It doesn't matter how cheap or easy it is to replace the gasket. I'd throw a brake rotor through the dealer's window.
Absolutely correct (I would hold in reserve the right to break the dealers windows...and I would NEVER use a BMW brake rotor...they're waaaaaay too expensive...a cheap rock will do) depending on how the selling dealer handles the complaint/failure. Here is an opportunity for a good dealer to serve the customer. If the dealer doesn't step up, I would make it well known to the motorcycle community and consider litigation in small claims court.

If the dealer does step up, we should know about that, as well.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:40 PM   #41
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I am mostly pissed off because I am going to be out of town for a week and won't be able to have phone contact with them once I leave. Don't want this to drag into my trip.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:45 PM   #42
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You sure do worry a lot. It really is NBD.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:53 PM   #43
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I am going to squid it without a helmet and gear so I don't have to lug it home on my walk
Yeah, that's a good reason to ride without a helmet.

You're anxiety-ridden about what is likely a simple slipped donut seal, but yet you're completely nonchalant about riding around with no protection for your brain because you don't want to "lug" a helmet home with you.

Something IS broken, and it's not just the bike.
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:06 PM   #44
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Yeah, that's a good reason to ride without a helmet.

You're anxiety-ridden about what is likely a simple slipped donut seal, but yet you're completely nonchalant about riding around with no protection for your brain because you don't want to "lug" a helmet home with you.

Something IS broken, and it's not just the bike.

I was feeling reckless and wreckless.....
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:11 PM   #45
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I was feeling reckless and wreckless.....
Well, I hope you make/made it home safe. And, in the unfortunate alternative, that you've signed your organ donor card.
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