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Old 05-13-2013, 06:54 PM   #76
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That's a no shit.
And the coil wouldn't be full of oil because of it either, I'm not sure who's bullshitting who on this.
He said the gasket was bad, which cause the oil problem.

He said he broke the cam/timing tensioner/holder (not really sure now that I look at the parts schematics) when he was making sure everything was good to go. I am pretty sure he said cam tensioner.

It was a 1 minute conversation, not a lot of detail.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:12 PM   #77
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They seem pretty unwilling to undo the sale. They are fixing it. Told me to think about it while I'm on my trip.

At this I'm more peeved that they don't say yes or no. I even offered to take a $200 loss to make it more attractive to them. It is rapidly approaching the point in time where I won't darken their door again, nor have anything nice to say about them to anyone.

When they asked what I would do if they didn't allow me to return it, I told them I would sell it, at a bit of a loss, and then go somewhere else for the two motorcycles I planned on purchasing this summer, and probably never come back.

Maybe I'm being a big fucking baby, but it is what it is.
So much of this doesn't make sense. If you really feel like you are getting screwed over on the bike, why in God's name would you OFFER to lose $200 and be more upset than anything about them suggesting you should take a few days when you are out of town to reconsider? Sounds like a REALLY bad case of buyers remorse.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:27 PM   #78
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:29 PM   #79
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So much of this doesn't make sense. If you really feel like you are getting screwed over on the bike, why in God's name would you OFFER to lose $200 and be more upset than anything about them suggesting you should take a few days when you are out of town to reconsider? Sounds like a REALLY bad case of buyers remorse.

The $200 was for their time doing the paperwork and the salesmans time originally and to unwind the sale. No net loss for them would facilitate what I want, wouldn't it? $200 is not a lot of money to avoid more hassle.

I don't feel I am being screwed over on the bike, I don't like the options they are giving me to resolve the situation. Motorcycling is experience based, and they screwed up the experience by failing to properly service and inspect the motorcycle before putting it on the floor. They've wasted about 5 hours of my time and caused me annoyance. They then try to "fix" it and cause additional damage that needs to be fixed.

In the end I will have a functional motorcycle (I hope), but the process leading up to that was obnoxious and off putting and I am left with a feeling the other shoe is about to drop.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:40 PM   #80
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When I bought my used Superduke I had to bring it home in the truck.
No tags on it, a few other reasons that I couldn't ride it home at the time.

When I had looked at it the battery was nearly dead, sales man jump started it and it was fine.
It was owned by an inmate here that took very good care of it so I wasn't concerned.

Unload it out of the truck, get ready to ride my new bike and it won't start.
Dead battery Wouldn't hold a charge.

Call the sales guy, who I have dealt with before and tell him what's up.
He orders a new battery, but I didn't get to ride for several days.

Battery was free, and the bike has been fantastic. But at that point when I hit the button and the bike didn't start I was pissed and wanted nothing more than to be rid of it.

So I can understand your frustration, because I'm the same way sometimes.
I have only had a couple cars/trucks break down and leave me stranded. But when they did I sold them.

My Superduke has been great, that was almost 3 years ago.
I think you should give the bike another chance, but I also think that you should find someone else to work on it if you are unwilling or unable to do it yourself.

Seems as if the tech there is not the best at BMWs, I have KTMs and they are a bit different to work on.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:46 PM   #81
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Ok,

I am starting to understand your outlook on this. You were about to embark upon a long journey right?
what was your plan if you had any sort of issues on the trip?

you appear to know very little about the bike's design, and service.

I understand that you wanted to pay the money and get the experience, There seems to be some disconnect there to me.

ITs either a lack of logic on your part, or a grand trolling effort.



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The $200 was for their time doing the paperwork and the salesmans time originally and to unwind the sale. No net loss for them would facilitate what I want, wouldn't it? $200 is not a lot of money to avoid more hassle.

I don't feel I am being screwed over on the bike, I don't like the options they are giving me to resolve the situation. Motorcycling is experience based, and they screwed up the experience by failing to properly service and inspect the motorcycle before putting it on the floor. They've wasted about 5 hours of my time and caused me annoyance. They then try to "fix" it and cause additional damage that needs to be fixed.

In the end I will have a functional motorcycle (I hope), but the process leading up to that was obnoxious and off putting and I am left with a feeling the other shoe is about to drop.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:46 PM   #82
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Something doesn't add up. Neither the cam chain tensioner, or the timing chain tensioner would be touched in a normal service for a 2008 12GS.
I WAS thinking the same thing...hence the popcorn
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:58 PM   #83
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Something doesn't add up. Neither the cam chain tensioner, or the timing chain tensioner would be touched in a normal service for a 2008 12GS.
+1,000,000

Also, this alleged GS owner who freaks out over a slightly displaced donut seal is more than happy to ride the bike back to the dealer without a helmet simply because he didn't want to have to "lug it home".

That doesn't sound like any GS owner I've ever met.

What IS that odd smell?
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:59 PM   #84
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Ok,

I am starting to understand your outlook on this. You were about to embark upon a long journey right?
what was your plan if you had any sort of issues on the trip?

you appear to know very little about the bike's design, and service.

I understand that you wanted to pay the money and get the experience, There seems to be some disconnect there to me.

ITs either a lack of logic on your part, or a grand trolling effort.
Have to agree. Even the title of the post makes you question the whole thing. You buy a used bike, from a dealer and mechanic you trust, who apparently did a piss poor job inspecting the bike before they sold it or just flat screwed up the service they did on it.....and it somehow becomes a bad introduction to BMWs??
Whatever the outcome, I hope you are happy with whatever bike you end up with.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:59 PM   #85
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+1,000,000

Also, this alleged GS owner who freaks out over a slightly displaced donut seal is more than happy to ride the bike back to the dealer without a helmet simply because he didn't want to have to "lug it home".

That doesn't sound like any GS owner I've ever met.

What IS that odd smell?
Yes, I am trolling. Good job on figuring it out.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:03 PM   #86
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Yes, I am trolling. Good job on figuring it out.
Cool.

So, what's the prize? Wait, let me guess . . . oil-flavored donut (seal)?
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:04 PM   #87
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Cool.

So, what's the prize? Wait, let me guess . . . oil-flavored donut (seal)?

That's what she said?
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:08 PM   #88
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What dealer? Is it a BMW dealer in Missoula? (It's the only one in MT)
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:11 PM   #89
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That's what she said?
Ooh, boy . . . the fact that you ended that sentence with a question mark . . . well, whatever. But that's not really how that joke works.

Anyway, good luck on whatever your next bike is. May it forever be failure free.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:16 PM   #90
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What dealer? Is it a BMW dealer in Missoula? (It's the only one in MT)

Not a BMW dealer, but those guys acted odd last time I was in there looking at stuff. My buddy couldn't get out of there fast enough and basically said "WTF was that".
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