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Old 05-13-2013, 11:44 PM   #1
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Sand rails in flatisand?

Later this week Im going to look at 2 sand rails. but I have to decide on buying just one. tough decision here. anybody ever owned one of these? My dad and grandpa have both owned some dune buggys which im sure has a very similar motor but this will be my first rail car. Neither car has a trailer hitch installed but whichever I get im going to stick a hitch on the back and find a trailer to haul bikes out to ride locations. heres pics and details of both



RED ($5000)


I need to sell my VW powered rail buggy. Look at the pics, you will see that it is killer nice. It starts runs and drives great. It is a blast to drive. it has many new parts including:
new Grant steering wheel
new quick release for steering wheel
new sprint car easy entry
new 34 PICT carb
new steering shaft and "U" joint
new rack and pinion
new tie rods
new starter switch
new super shifter
new oil cooler with fan
new polished aluminum axle beam
new Monroe front shocks
new air cleaner
new brake hose clips
new LED license plate light
new license plate holder
new brake light switch
new $500 PRP seats
new custom Yarnell shocks
new billet side view mirrors
new seat belts
$795 rebuilt Rancho Suspensions transmission
new front and rear BR polished aluminum wheels
new Goodyear radials
new battery and box
new polished stainless steel gas tank
New gauges

I have the clear title in hand. This is titled as an 1984. It has a 1600 dual port engine. Only thing wrong is a slight oil leak. Come see, drive and make an offer. I also have a 67 Beetle for sale.




GREEN ($6600)



This is fully registered, insured, plated, and titled. No paperwork issues or hoops to jump through.

engine is a 1775 with dual carbs

Brand new plugs, wires, rotor, cap. Brand new starter.

4 - speed transmission with less than 470 miles on clutch. J MAR pedal and brake kit.

Solid aluminum roof and floor panels. Tires are like new.

Spooled aluminum fuel tank with pressure regulator and safety cut off.

4 wheel disc brakes and e brake modulator. REAL glass windshield

47 MPG !!!!!!

lights are fully functional as well as the horn, turn signals, etc.

Quick disconnect steering wheel (on & off in less than 20 seconds).

If you are looking to have a blast this is for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fastest I have had it is 120 MPH. after that the front end starts to float.

$6,600.00 My price is firm. Only trades I would be interested in are for a box truck (no u-hauls) with lift gate or a cargo van 2002 or newer. Must be of equal value or higher.

Will also consider partial trades for a high quality 300 Blackout or possibly an AR.

INCLUDE A PHONE NUMBER OR YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE.
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:26 AM   #2
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They're designed to be light on the front end

Not to tow motorcycles

I suppose you could put a tool box on the front though
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:15 PM   #3
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The trick to towing anything is to get the hitch ball and hitch attachment point lower than the centerline of the axle (or at least no higher than). Otherwise any towed load will try to lift the front on acceleration and push it down on decel since it is designed to ride very light up front.
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:13 AM   #4
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Top is a High Jumper Sand Sprite 2 with a coilover rear suspension..KICK ASS Chassis..bottom is a JSC Invader, ho-hum...welded up about 200 when I was working my way through college in the 80's. The top one has a Kingpin front end which is better for off road but harder to repair if worn out than the balljoint front end on the bottom one..plus it's (top one) got either a JT or Jamar front beam. I always thought ball joint front ends on a rail where butt ugly due to the shock towers.

The top one is a basic 1600CC VW engine, which will get the job done like a DRZ200 with a fat man on it. The 1775 (actually 1776, as it is 90.5 bore by 69mm stroke) will fare a little better. I used to run in the 2180CC to 2275CC range in my VW's. However, the 1600 will run forever s long as you keep oil in it.

Both look like Jamar hydraulics...

Top one looks like Beard Super seats ($$$) but hard to tell. Bottom one basic fiberglass. Top one also has what looks like either a Jamar or Bugpack rack and pinion...pretty cool.

Top is a swingaxle trans, which is more durable than a T-1 IRS off road (T-2 whole different story)..can't tell on the bottom, but it has a T-1 IRS torsion housing...

I'd go with the the High Jumper (top)...that's not a bad price. Engines are cheap and easy to build when you want some HP.

Look at how it is titled. If it is titled as a VW Beetle, it may make it difficult to get insurance...also I had a buddy years ago who had his titled that way, and when got in an accident the insurance company didn't want to pay, as the title said "2 door" and he had none !!

Put a hitch on it. It'll pull a light 3 rail trailer and Bike just fine.
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:47 AM   #5
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thanks Brewmann thats exactly what I needed to know! I'm going to look at the red one tomorrow.
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:56 AM   #6
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:27 PM   #7
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Top is a High Jumper Sand Sprite 2 with a coilover rear suspension..KICK ASS Chassis..bottom is a JSC Invader, ho-hum...welded up about 200 when I was working my way through college in the 80's. The top one has a Kingpin front end which is better for off road but harder to repair if worn out than the balljoint front end on the bottom one..plus it's (top one) got either a JT or Jamar front beam. I always thought ball joint front ends on a rail where butt ugly due to the shock towers.

The top one is a basic 1600CC VW engine, which will get the job done like a DRZ200 with a fat man on it. The 1775 (actually 1776, as it is 90.5 bore by 69mm stroke) will fare a little better. I used to run in the 2180CC to 2275CC range in my VW's. However, the 1600 will run forever s long as you keep oil in it.

Both look like Jamar hydraulics...

Top one looks like Beard Super seats ($$$) but hard to tell. Bottom one basic fiberglass. Top one also has what looks like either a Jamar or Bugpack rack and pinion...pretty cool.

Top is a swingaxle trans, which is more durable than a T-1 IRS off road (T-2 whole different story)..can't tell on the bottom, but it has a T-1 IRS torsion housing...

I'd go with the the High Jumper (top)...that's not a bad price. Engines are cheap and easy to build when you want some HP.

Look at how it is titled. If it is titled as a VW Beetle, it may make it difficult to get insurance...also I had a buddy years ago who had his titled that way, and when got in an accident the insurance company didn't want to pay, as the title said "2 door" and he had none !!

Put a hitch on it. It'll pull a light 3 rail trailer and Bike just fine.
Holy shit Dude...you know your way around Sand rails...never would have guessed...what else are hiding from us?
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:04 AM   #8
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Holy shit Dude...you know your way around Sand rails...never would have guessed...what else are hiding from us?
LOL....you never know !!
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:31 PM   #9
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:56 PM   #10
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Got one for you Bruce, What do woman want?
That's easy....they have no clue what they want......
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Old 05-17-2013, 03:34 PM   #11
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got the sand rail! going to look at an FSE450 tomorrow and an XR650R. will prob buy both if they are as nice as I think they are.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:45 PM   #12
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:16 PM   #13
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Got the FSE!! what an ass kicker this thing is! previous owner worked for gas gas in tampa something technical services something. came with a shit ton of extra gas gas goodies including software for the efi, 13:1 piston, high lift cams, full exhaust, full set of extra plastics, original brand new graphics kit, and other odds and ends! did you know Gas Gas is Spanish for "BEAT KTM"??


That 650R sold though so I wont be getting it. I might however may be looking at either a street legal XR600R OR a XR650L and picking one of the two. not sure yet.



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Old 05-19-2013, 07:10 AM   #15
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Looks like we have the same boat. Mines a 1990 Sea Ray 180 bow rider with a 135 Merc outboard. Bought it new .
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