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Old 05-16-2013, 03:13 PM   #16
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I'm really quite amazed, and mayhaps disappointed in George's carry on with this. At the end of the day, it was his mistake, and he admitted as much himself!
So like, build a bridge man! (Revenge will be sweet)
Capirossi. No angel....ask Harada, & Aprillia.
I am a fan of Jorge. But if I were Marquez, I would barge him again at the very next opportunity.

As I said last round, if Rossi has the speed, I would love to see him and Marquez have a real battle.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:05 PM   #17
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IIRC, wasn't is Ayrton Senna who would jam his racecar into such a position that his competitor had the choice of crashing into him or backing off and letting Senna go by. I forget exactly where I had read this but perhaps MM has read it also and studied Senna's tactics.

I remember that was Senna's way to intimidate his opponents. He would do that a few times to a particular racer until they would automatically give way- Senna had "programmed" them.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:18 PM   #18
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IIRC, wasn't is Ayrton Senna who would jam his racecar into such a position that his competitor had the choice of crashing into him or backing off and letting Senna go by. I forget exactly where I had read this but perhaps MM has read it also and studied Senna's tactics.

I remember that was Senna's way to intimidate his opponents. He would do that a few times to a particular racer until they would automatically give way- Senna had "programmed" them.
Without going into too deeply, Senna famously crashed into Alain Prost in Suzuka in 1989 (I believe) in the first turn after stating his intentions to do just that because he felt he was getting screwed by the decision to move P1 onto the dirty side of the track. Basically saying any outcome was the consequence of the FIA chief (Balastere(sp?) ) and race direction’s decision. He felt he was in the right, full stop. Prost won the championship that day.

Not at all a similar situation as to what MM is in where the guy just races hard and the moto2 guys found out he doesn’t back down and you have fight back with equal vigor or just forget it.
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IIRC, wasn't is Ayrton Senna who would jam his racecar into such a position that his competitor had the choice of crashing into him or backing off and letting Senna go by. I forget exactly where I had read this but perhaps MM has read it also and studied Senna's tactics.

I remember that was Senna's way to intimidate his opponents. He would do that a few times to a particular racer until they would automatically give way- Senna had "programmed" them.
I am no Ayrton Senna and I learned to do stuff like that racing BMX bikes as a kid. It is a very effective tactic to intimidate your competitors.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:20 PM   #20
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I am a fan of Jorge. But if I were Marquez, I would barge him again at the very next opportunity.
Jorge's perseverating on Jerez is doing only one thing: reminding the world he got beat by the kid. He'd be wise to drop it and put his energy into striking back.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:22 PM   #21
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Jorge's perseverating on Jerez is doing only one thing: reminding the world he got beat by the kid. He'd be wise to drop it and put his energy into striking back.
I would love to see just that.
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I am a fan of Jorge. But if I were Marquez, I would barge him again at the very next opportunity.

As I said last round, if Rossi has the speed, I would love to see him and Marquez have a real battle.
Oh yes pleeeese
(The weather could make it happen)
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:55 PM   #23
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My head says Jeorge won't be leaving any doors open, without pushing that Yamaha real wide on his knee.
I'm thinking Pedrosa is quietly working his way toward his last chance at that championship. But, we've been there before.

I want to see Vale and Marc in a good dustup, but I expect it will be Jeorge again with the thing looking fully figured then Pedrosa taking the hole shot. Marc will fluff the start for the first time in forever, and Vale will blow by on the way into T1.
Cal will come through going into the chicane.
But, that won't stand long, Marc will steam past when Cal overcooks and has to pick it up and run wide.
Then we will be treated to what we hoped for. Vale and Marc, banging painted bits until Vales front tire smokes and lets him push wide, and Marc will be off after Lorenzo.

1. Pedrosa
2. Lorenzo
3. Marquez
4. Rossi
5. Crutchlow
wasn't there supposed to be another guy?

Oh, yeah Bradl. Then just Nicky, Espargaro, and Dovi.
Crazy Joe will try to toss his Duc into the stands after that mix-master set of turns coming onto the home straight, somewhere about 7 laps in.

Unless it rains.

Full wets, Colin wins!
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:08 PM   #24
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I'm really quite amazed, and mayhaps disappointed in George's carry on with this. At the end of the day, it was his mistake, and he admitted as much himself!
So like, build a bridge man! (Revenge will be sweet)
Capirossi. No angel....ask Harada, & Aprillia.


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Old 05-16-2013, 06:25 PM   #25
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The big question here is who will be going mano y mano with Marquez?
Marquez is where the action is. Rossi showed us how it's done.
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Yeah, WHERE is Bradl??

All the off season Honda factory signing hoopla and....

Where is Bradl??
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Old 05-17-2013, 03:38 AM   #27
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:12 AM   #28
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...Where is Bradl??
almost there...

FP2 (dry as well)

1 PEDROSA Honda 1'34.035
2 MARQUEZ Honda 1'34.169 0.134 / 0.134
3 ROSSI Yamaha 1'34.173 0.138 / 0.004
4 LORENZO Yamaha 1'34.201 0.166 / 0.028
5 BRADL Honda 1'34.299 0.264 / 0.098
6 CRUTCHLOW Yamaha 1'34.512 0.477 / 0.213
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:14 AM   #29
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I am no Ayrton Senna and I learned to do stuff like that racing BMX bikes as a kid. It is a very effective tactic to intimidate your competitors.
Back in my YZ125 days I sometimes bumped the rider I was trying to get around while on the brakes entering slow turns. Amazingly, they often pulled over for me. I wasn't even any good.

I don't think that is a good tactic in road racing, though.
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almost there...

FP2 (dry as well)

1 PEDROSA Honda 1'34.035
2 MARQUEZ Honda 1'34.169 0.134 / 0.134
3 ROSSI Yamaha 1'34.173 0.138 / 0.004
4 LORENZO Yamaha 1'34.201 0.166 / 0.028
5 BRADL Honda 1'34.299 0.264 / 0.098
6 CRUTCHLOW Yamaha 1'34.512 0.477 / 0.213
Bradl in 5th (for now....)
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