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Old 05-18-2013, 01:38 PM   #1
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Well, that was quick.

So, I managed to be the one guy in my first day of MSF range who crashed. Not dropped the bike, mind you (one or two people did that) but actually fell off at speed (well, not much speed, but still.)

We were just getting used to turning, and when we crossed over to do the oval backwards, I got screwed up trying to get back into second, ended up coming into the turn a little hot, and taught myself the hard way why we don't break in turns.

Didn't get hurt, other than a little scratch where the terrible gloves I was wearing ripped. My jacket has a little character now too. It could have been worse, considering I was wearing an open face helmet and sunglasses (didn't realize the helmets they provided didn't include eye protection until too late to go buy some).

Anyway, yeah, learning experience. Other than that, first time on a bike was pretty cool.



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Old 05-18-2013, 08:58 PM   #2
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It was probably the wingtips.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:44 PM   #3
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So, I managed to be the one guy in my first day of MSF range who crashed. --------

Anyway, yeah, learning experience. Other than that, first time on a bike was pretty cool.
Welcome to the sport. My first ride, many years ago, ended after ~5 seconds when the little minibike pitched me off and my foot slid under a chain-link fence. The ends of the wire are pretty sharp.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:24 PM   #4
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It was probably the wingtips.
Ha. Ha. Ha.

Sturdiest pair of boots I have. Lace up ropers. Honestly, after riding, I think I might have had trouble with anything bulkier. Size 13s take up a lot of space.

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Welcome to the sport. My firs ride, many years ago, ended after ~5 seconds when the little minibike pitched me off and my foot slid under a chain-link fence. The ends of the wire are pretty sharp.
Sounds painful.
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Old 05-18-2013, 11:17 PM   #5
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According to my instructor, every class has a different dynamic - sometimes no one drops in the whole class but sometimes every single person drops on a given exercise.

Frankly, I'm surprised they don't have students wear more gear for liability reasons - long sleeves, closed shoes and any helmet is all they asked for, as I recall. It's easy to forget but going down at 30mph on pavement with inadequate gear hurts and it can put you in the hospital from road rash alone.

Riding gloves are like twenty bucks and a good full-face helmet can be found for under a hundred. Get thee to a moto shop and get yourself some more gear - you know you have to eventually.

Also - on riding boots - it can be a pain to get used to bulkier boots (especially shifting) but you can usually rotate shift lever up on the splines to accommodate a bigger shoe, or you can buy a longer lever. The main time I get paranoid about protecting my feet is when I'm offroad with boulders and weeds and stuff but even on the street, it would suck to wreck and get skewered in the ankle by a footpeg on the way down...

Don't let your little spill get you down - is that MSF's bike you dropped? Always best to drop someone else's machine if possible
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:50 AM   #6
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According to my instructor, every class has a different dynamic - sometimes no one drops in the whole class but sometimes every single person drops on a given exercise.

Frankly, I'm surprised they don't have students wear more gear for liability reasons - long sleeves, closed shoes and any helmet is all they asked for, as I recall. It's easy to forget but going down at 30mph on pavement with inadequate gear hurts and it can put you in the hospital from road rash alone.
That is why I was so happy I had my jacket. Didn't even get a bruise on my arm.
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Already done. I just hadn't had a chance before the class.
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Also - on riding boots - it can be a pain to get used to bulkier boots (especially shifting) but you can usually rotate shift lever up on the splines to accommodate a bigger shoe, or you can buy a longer lever. The main time I get paranoid about protecting my feet is when I'm offroad with boulders and weeds and stuff but even on the street, it would suck to wreck and get skewered in the ankle by a footpeg on the way down...

Don't let your little spill get you down - is that MSF's bike you dropped? Always best to drop someone else's machine if possible
I was back up and riding as soon as they would let me. Didn't really bother me at all, just kicking myself for having to learn the hard way. I figure that dropping the MSF bike in a controlled environment was probably the best place for that to happen, and I didn't get hurt.
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Old 05-19-2013, 07:27 AM   #7
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That is why I was so happy I had my jacket. Didn't even get a bruise on my arm.

Already done. I just hadn't had a chance before the class.


I was back up and riding as soon as they would let me. Didn't really bother me at all, just kicking myself for having to learn the hard way. I figure that dropping the MSF bike in a controlled environment was probably the best place for that to happen, and I didn't get hurt.
At my MSF class if you dropped the bike you failed immediately and had to leave. One guy did, but he was given the chance to come back and "pick up" from where he left off , test-wise.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:02 AM   #8
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I believe that this is true only of the testing part. Dropping the bike during the exercises is considered 'OK'. Or maybe not, during my class no one dropped a bike until the test. Then all hell broke loose.
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I believe that this is true only of the testing part. Dropping the bike during the exercises is considered 'OK'. Or maybe not, during my class no one dropped a bike until the test. Then all hell broke loose.
I think that's right. When I took mine (granted, it was a decade ago) people dropped a couple times during the exercises but one person failed the test just for putting a foot down.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:14 AM   #10
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I believe that this is true only of the testing part. Dropping the bike during the exercises is considered 'OK'. Or maybe not, during my class no one dropped a bike until the test. Then all hell broke loose.
Yes that's right. A girl did a slow drop, and continued with the course. The guy who had to leave dropped during the skills test. I took mine on the one DR200 there, and I raised the idle speed slightly since it was bucking when doing the slow maneuvers in 1st. Test was actually fun (except for the figure 8 in the parking space, when I got all but still did it )

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Old 05-19-2013, 08:31 AM   #11
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Honestly, after riding, I think I might have had trouble with anything bulkier. Size 13s take up a lot of space.
While I'm not going to argue with the advice about getting some good boots, I would add that things get much better when you get to pick your own bike. Having a bike that fits you is just as nice as good fitting gear. You know how when you pull on the right pair of gloves all of your fingers just go where they belong, and your movements still feel natural? Good fitting boots don't require you to stretch and wiggle, relace... A good fitting bike is kinda like that. All of your appendages fall right into place, all the controls are right where they need to be.

My MSF instructor repeatedly told me "Good job, you made that look as smooth as a circus bear on a bicycle could." I never did tell him that if he's seen Madagascar 3, the bear gets a Ducati."


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Old 05-19-2013, 10:40 AM   #12
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Can't understand how this happened... the number 8 is supposed to represent balance.

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Old 05-19-2013, 12:32 PM   #13
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well that should cure you from braking in turns. sounds like you're gonna be ok.
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:26 PM   #14
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Holy shit, look at those "barkbusters". Well I guess not for 'bark' as there are no trees on the range (that's what we call 'em on woods bikes).
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:29 PM   #15
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....taught myself the hard way why we don't break in turns.
Pssst... actually we CAN brake in turns. Think of it as an 'advanced maneuver', lol. Just don't grab a big handful (or footfull) while turning.
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