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Old 05-18-2013, 08:32 PM   #16
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What about the engine heat issue of the tiger? I live in Texas and it hits 115 in the summer.
Never had an issue with it and rode in temperatures up to 105F. If it hits 115 I doubt that the "heat issue" of the Tiger will be my main problem. I'll try to crawl under a rock and hide until night then ...
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:26 PM   #17
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Not that they would admit; but secretly they all wish they'd bought a full size bike after a few weeks.
Ah, no.

Not sure why you think an 800 isn't a full size bike. Have you ridden them?

I recently sold my 2006 Multi 1000s which I bought new. I thought I was going to buy a new Multi but couldn't see taking it over CO mountain passes... I rode my Multi on multiple 4000-5000 mile rides and the Tiger is better at those rides plus manageable off road.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:28 PM   #18
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Any triumph 800xc owners wish they would have bought a BMW F800gs?
No. While I didn't plan on buying the Triumph, it was an easy decision once I rode it. The F800 would have felt at home with the three Bimmers in the garage....
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:30 PM   #19
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Not sure why you think an 800 isn't a full size bike.
It's all a question how much you have to compensate ...
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:57 PM   #20
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It's all a question how much you have to compensate ...
Let me rephrase the whole full size thing. Certainly it has full size weight; just half the horsepower. But like a previous poster said; they're much less expensive so I can dig it. I'd rather ride 73hp at the wheel than none at all.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:30 PM   #21
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Let me rephrase the whole full size thing. Certainly it has full size weight; just half the horsepower. But like a previous poster said; they're much less expensive so I can dig it. I'd rather ride 73hp at the wheel than none at all.
Uninformed and condescending....quite the combination.

2012 Tiger 800xc - 474 lbs wet and 94 hp (crank)
2012 Explorer 1200 - 539 lbs wet and 135 hp (crank)

And it's not about the $$.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:41 PM   #22
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Nope, I did not like it or the 650/700, Tex1200, Multistrada or S10. Not saying there is anything wrong just personal preference.

I only wish the tank was a little larger without being bulbous.
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Old 05-18-2013, 11:08 PM   #23
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Let me rephrase the whole full size thing. Certainly it has full size weight; just half the horsepower.
You are making my point, exactly ...
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:58 AM   #24
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I commute 600 miles a week and bought the Tiger new 1st March and love it, the weight is fine and I I filter for several miles on my return journey out of London.

ive had bigger bikes, heavier bikes and was always aware of how heavy they were but I must say that the Tiger is the best bike to date that ive owned for its purpose that is!

ive not ridden the BMW or the 1215 Explorer but the cost of servicing would put me off buying a BMW straight away!

Im contemplating the off school for a class and would want to ride both the 800 and the 1200!

rgds Lee.
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:15 AM   #25
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Let me rephrase the whole full size thing. Certainly it has full size weight; just half the horsepower. But like a previous poster said; they're much less expensive so I can dig it. I'd rather ride 73hp at the wheel than none at all.

OK. Take your full-sized Multi, I take 690 Supermoto. We go to High Alps, Pyrenees, Dolomites or any other place on this side of the pond where riding makes sense (on other places it's straight good quality paved highways and speed cameras and cops that easily catch you even when they ride FJRs or STs). I easily outrace you on that 690, then we swap bikes and you will outrace me on that 690.
See what I mean?
Full size, not full size...what matters if function, not looks and paper figures. And 820 will make twice more sense than Multi, Explorer or Tenere 1200.
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:43 AM   #26
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Rode both and couldn't get off the BMW quickly enough. Went out and bought a Tiger straight away.......chalk and cheese I'm afraid.....
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:30 AM   #27
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I wanted an F800GS badly, that is until I read up on them. Too many issues for my tastes. I've owned 2 BMWs previously and they both were not that well made, let's just put it that way. I figured with my luck I'd get one of those horror story bikes that you can read about in the Chain Gang. When I went to the Triumph dealer I was not expecting all that much from the Tiger. However, once I rode it, well..........
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Old 05-19-2013, 02:57 PM   #28
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Same question could apply to the purchase of a Super Tenere over a R1200GS... and the reliability issue of BMW will give you similar result.

I was riding a R1200GS last year and I am now in the Japanese family.

And I can do my service myself... there is now SERVICE flashing in my dash anymore.
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Old 05-19-2013, 03:47 PM   #29
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Besides the added ground clearance..absolutely not.
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Old 05-19-2013, 09:04 PM   #30
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Why do people buy the 800gs? It only weighs 20# less than the 1200 wet.
Somehow that stuck with me as I knew it was wrong so I checked the exact numbers. It's about 53 lbs according to BMW itself, not 20. Measured by some German magazines the difference is actually more than 65lbs.

So, not quite in same weight league.
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