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Old 05-19-2013, 03:58 PM   #1
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anyone use a car scissor jacket under their bike?

i have a 2006 z750s kawasaki z750s.

the bike has a side stand but no center stand is available.

i have installed rear spools and have a pit bull stand that i use to lift the rear wheel when i want to clean/lube the chain.

the pit bull is very secure...once it is up in the air.

the process of lining up the "forks" with the spools while leaning the bike over with my left hand---but not too far!---and then pushing down with my right hand, is a nerve-racking exercise.

it works, but i'm always thrilled that i didn't drop the bike.

i was wondering if anyone uses a car-type scissor jack placed under the swing arm just to get the rear wheel airborne.

if not a scissor jack, how about one of those small hydraulic jacks under a some wood to spread out the upward left.

obviously, i'm still rather new at getting the rear wheel off the ground, so i'm interested in what more experienced folks do.

thanks in advance to those who care to share.

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Old 05-19-2013, 04:13 PM   #2
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When I put mine on the rear stand I put the stand handle up behind the wheel , stand on the left of the bike and stand it up with my left thigh while holding the right side of the tail with my left hand. The line up the spools and push down the stand with my right hand. I have done what you're saying , but the rear stand is much more stable if you have one.
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:23 PM   #3
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When I put mine on the rear stand I put the stand handle up behind the wheel , stand on the left of the bike and stand it up with my left thigh while holding the right side of the tail with my left hand. The line up the spools and push down the stand with my right hand. I have done what you're saying , but the rear stand is much more stable if you have one.
thanks for replying.

what you describe is exactly the procedure i attempt.

i just wish i had either a third arm or another body!

that moment of balancing the motorcycle with body weight/thigh/arm while lining up the fingers of the stand under the spools, especially difficult is the spool on the opposite side of the stand which just also happens to have the upswept muffler partially blocking my view of the stand/spool.

i find it nerve-racking and tricky.

i have done it successfully 5-6 times but i'm always holding my breath in the process.

yup yup.

ymmv

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Old 05-19-2013, 04:28 PM   #4
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Do it 10 or 12 times in a row and practice.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:39 PM   #5
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Get one of these http://www.baxleycompanies.com/Sportchock.html Once you have one you'll wonder how you lived without it. Once the front wheel goes in you can safely dismount and it will hold the bike upright. Go get your pit bull stand and hook it in and lever the rear wheel up. Mine gets used at the racetrack. Nothing better than coming in after a race and rolling it into the Baxley and stepping off the bike without worrying about fumbling with a rear stand.

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Old 05-19-2013, 09:05 PM   #6
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Use ratchet straps. put one on each side of the bike and then up to the rafters, will help keep it stable while you lift it. I have use ratchet straps with a regular old floorjack and a board to change out the rear wheel on my old Kawisaki Vulcan. The straps stabilize as the jack lifts.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:47 AM   #7
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There are ATV/MC jacks like this one :

http://www.zorotools.com/g/00092300/k-G4316855?utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Google_Shopping_Feed&kw={keyword}&gclid=CJvSyMbnpLcCFUqZ4AodtScAbA

That work well if your bike has a nice flat space under it. If not, sometimes you can make it work with blocking or a custom pad.

The rafter strap idea works but is a hassle. I like the wheel chock idea, beats getting my wife to work the stand.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:43 AM   #8
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Rafter straps are nice, but don't get crazy lifting it up, remember you have to let it down. DAMHIK.

I have one of these on my Trailer (and I was thinking about 1 for the garage). Way less $ than the one posted earlier (which I'm sure is a nice one). If you find a MC mag, you should be able to find a coupon to buy it for $25. Here (click me)

They have a cheaper one, and one that looks more like the one posted earlier. Just search "chock" at HF.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:15 AM   #9
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Rafter straps are nice, but don't get crazy lifting it up, remember you have to let it down. DAMHIK.

I have one of these on my Trailer (and I was thinking about 1 for the garage). Way less $ than the one posted earlier (which I'm sure is a nice one). If you find a MC mag, you should be able to find a coupon to buy it for $25. Here (click me)

They have a cheaper one, and one that looks more like the one posted earlier. Just search "chock" at HF.
the earlier posted chock looked great but was expensive.

i do imagine you get higher quality that is not available on the pittsburgh brand/harbor freight/chinese tools.

without bolting the chock to the garage floor or trailer bed, will the hf front wheel chock hold up my z750s hands free long enough for me to fully let go and grab my pit bull and then angle the "fingers" under the rear spools so i can lift the rear wheel?

and even if stable, without bolting to the garage floor, will the hf front wheel chock "walk" away as i attempt to push my z750s into the wheel well?

any and all thoughts on the harbor freight front wheel chock is appreciated.

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Old 05-20-2013, 10:49 AM   #10
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I use a scissor jack to jack up the front of my vstrom, once it is up I either put bricks or jackstands under the bike. Works for me.
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:39 PM   #11
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just practice.

I do it all the time on my zrx which is HEAVY up top but the passenger grab handles are useful. I use a 'standard' size pitbull stand on the spools so it take a hefty push to raise. I get the pickled forks under the spool then keep constant pressure to allow me to move to the back.
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:41 PM   #12
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My thought on the HF chock, was to mount it to a plate to make it free standing. I wouldn't put anything in it without a plate or bolts to the floor.

They also have one (click me) that IS free standing. It is also in the coupons in the back of bike mags for $43

Might be better for what you want. It's also more similar to the one posted earlier.

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Old 05-22-2013, 02:37 PM   #13
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Once you get used to the paddock stand, it's easy. With the bike on the sidestand, engage the stand with the left spool and with your left hand on the tail of the bike, start pushing down on the stand until the bike is vertical and the stand engages the right spool. Then push down hard and lift the bike. Same coming down, just push the bike to the left as you lower so it sits on the side stand.
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Old 05-24-2013, 05:08 AM   #14
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Got a harbor freight around you ?? $59 bucks with a coupon out of a dirt bike mag get you a nice motorcycle jack .
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:46 AM   #15
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Once you get used to the paddock stand, it's easy. With the bike on the sidestand, engage the stand with the left spool and with your left hand on the tail of the bike, start pushing down on the stand until the bike is vertical and the stand engages the right spool. Then push down hard and lift the bike. Same coming down, just push the bike to the left as you lower so it sits on the side stand.
I use a bit different method when going from sidestand to paddock stand.

Standing on the right rear of the bike, I engage the stand on both spools, and get the paddock stand's left wheel touching the deck. Then, as I pull the bike vertical, I rotate the stand downward, keeping it on the spools, until both wheels of the stand are on the deck. At that point the bike is vertical, and I just push down on the stand's handle to pop the bike up onto the stand.

My reason for standing on the right rear of the bike is that I'm there if it over-rotates to the right side. The side stand will be my safety margin on the left side.
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