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Old 06-10-2013, 08:00 AM   #136
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G'Day Lion,

It's the kind of power that leaves your hands shaking after a spirited run and makes you feel like wearing your undies on the outside, super hero style.

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This is how I feel about my 990 honestly, so I cant imagine hwo this thing is. Oh, and this is my new tag line!

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Old 06-10-2013, 03:21 PM   #137
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Sorry Bob. I did spare a thought for your plight whilst riding the deco granite tracks on the way to Dalby last week .





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Old 06-10-2013, 04:24 PM   #138
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Just got back from doing a 2500 km ride on my new 1190R .
My last bikes being a Ducati MTS 1200 Pikes Peak and a BMW GSA 1200 . This bike fits perfectly in the middle of both bikes . I thought the KTM makes real HP like the Ducati but fueling is better and engine feels smoother the electronics especially the TC excellent .
Off road the bikes a cracker . We went from Jamieson to Woods Point dirt slippery muddy roads then to Kings Lake which has sweeping bitumen roads so was great to experience the combintion of dirt and tar not as good as the Ducati on the tar but not far off either even with big front wheel. . This bike is exacty what I am looking for .
I found the KTM seat to be comfortable and the screen on the tall position to be perfect . My bike did have issues . It seems to leaking oil from the rear cylinder cover and the rear brake master cylinder lost it's cap in the first 100 ks but only minor issues.
I had to do a oil change half way through my ride as the bike was brand new found everything easy access .
Like the ice funcion on the dash saw it on a regular basis but need heated grips soon .
Looking forward to putting down more KM on this bike .
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Old 06-10-2013, 04:38 PM   #139
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How much of a wt difference is there between the stock and Akro can?
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Old 06-10-2013, 05:12 PM   #140
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A couple of things I am noting about the R

It seems the R has a better seat, this is in regards to comfort. The seat design does seem to look a more comfy layout? The suspension has more adjustment options, however these are not electronic. The other things are well noted but the above seem to be a big plus in my mind.
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:27 AM   #141
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Just got back from doing a 2500 km ride on my new 1190R .
My last bikes being a Ducati MTS 1200 Pikes Peak and a BMW GSA 1200 . This bike fits perfectly in the middle of both bikes . I thought the KTM makes real HP like the Ducati but fueling is better and engine feels smoother the electronics especially the TC excellent .
Off road the bikes a cracker . We went from Jamieson to Woods Point dirt slippery muddy roads then to Kings Lake which has sweeping bitumen roads so was great to experience the combintion of dirt and tar not as good as the Ducati on the tar but not far off either even with big front wheel. . This bike is exacty what I am looking for .
I found the KTM seat to be comfortable and the screen on the tall position to be perfect . My bike did have issues . It seems to leaking oil from the rear cylinder cover and the rear brake master cylinder lost it's cap in the first 100 ks but only minor issues.
I had to do a oil change half way through my ride as the bike was brand new found everything easy access .
Like the ice funcion on the dash saw it on a regular basis but need heated grips soon .
Looking forward to putting down more KM on this bike .
Thanks for the feedback!
How about comparing it to the 1200 GSA?
(i am a current owner of a 1200 GSA and thinking to replace it by KTM 1190, therefore my question and concern)
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Old 06-11-2013, 04:39 AM   #142
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16T Front Sprocket

The 1190's gearbox is a cracker. I think it is one of, possibly even the smoothest, gearboxes I have come across so far (my Suzuki heritage can't believe I just wrote that ). The ratio's are widely spaced and it engages effortlessly but I am finding that 6th only becomes relevant at around 130kph. With that kind of spread, I just fitted a 16T front sprocket to make 1st a little lower for tackling tight off road situations. I suspect that I may end up running a larger 45T rear (42 Stock) down the track but I will see how the simple front swap goes for the moment. The front sprocket (and I think the rear?) is the same pattern as the 990's.

While I was in the process of swapping the sprocket I thought would pass on a neat trick I saw here on Adventure Rider for undoing the primary nut. In the past I have found it necessary to use an impact gun in this situation but some clever Austrian has given this some thought and made the axle spanner attachment from the toolkit slide onto nut and sit into a groove of the chain buffer on the swingarm.

All you do then is rotate the rear wheel clockwise (I know this seems counter-intuitive until you think about the process) and the nut is undone.
Hey Danny,

Be very keen to hear your thoughts on the 16T, I initially thought I'd not need to go down primarily because of there so much grunt on hand but as I do more klms and become accomustomed to the power I've been thinking I might. I found it was one of the first things necessary on my 950 and it changed the ridability of the bike in almost all areas of bitumen and dirt. I would expect fuel usage to suffer a bit more on the 1190 than on the 950 because this thing has the power to drive the higher gearing and so will not benefit the same amount as the 950 did, it will surely rocket out of corners tho and make the little yellow light flash on a bit more often

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Old 06-11-2013, 04:27 PM   #143
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Thanks for the feedback!
How about comparing it to the 1200 GSA?
(i am a current owner of a 1200 GSA and thinking to replace it by KTM 1190, therefore my question and concern)
The 1190 feels like a lightweight in comparison to the 1200 GSA even just wheeling the bikes around the KTM feels light .
I always thought of the BMW as a awesome tool but not exciting I find the KTM puts a grin on my face when you turn the throttle .
The BMW is most likely I would prefer to be on in snotty weather I think it offers more protection but feel the KTM will improve with a bigger screen .
I really like the motor on the 1190 and the bike seems to have easy acess to be able to work on the bike if needed .
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:15 AM   #144
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This is now my new screen saver. Great pictures Burren ! ! !





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Old 06-13-2013, 04:34 PM   #145
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16T Front Sprocket

The 1190's gearbox is a cracker. I think it is one of, possibly even the smoothest, gearboxes I have come across so far (my Suzuki heritage can't believe I just wrote that ). The ratio's are widely spaced and it engages effortlessly but I am finding that 6th only becomes relevant at around 130kph. With that kind of spread, I just fitted a 16T front sprocket to make 1st a little lower for tackling tight off road situations. I suspect that I may end up running a larger 45T rear (42 Stock) down the track but I will see how the simple front swap goes for the moment. The front sprocket (and I think the rear?) is the same pattern as the 990's.
- interesting! I switched my front sprocket two weeks ago (17 > 16T) and it is a big improvement in riding the 990. I understand 990's from 2009 onward have 16T in front. For the 1190(R) I would expect enough bottom power to pull the bike through difficult situations
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:19 AM   #146
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Burren Rider, I've heard several 1190 owners complain of excessive heat on the left side of the bike. Have you noticed any heat problems on your leg or on the seat with your bike or are some folks just a little soft when it comes to motorcycle riding? I wonder if there is a heat problem with folks riding in Europe, how it will do here in the heat of Texas?
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Old 06-15-2013, 03:32 AM   #147
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Hey Danny,

Be very keen to hear your thoughts on the 16T, I initially thought I'd not need to go down primarily because of there so much grunt on hand but as I do more klms and become accomustomed to the power I've been thinking I might. I found it was one of the first things necessary on my 950 and it changed the ridability of the bike in almost all areas of bitumen and dirt. I would expect fuel usage to suffer a bit more on the 1190 than on the 950 because this thing has the power to drive the higher gearing and so will not benefit the same amount as the 950 did, it will surely rocket out of corners tho and make the little yellow light flash on a bit more often

Cheers Morgo
G'Day Morgo,

Even though the 1190 has plenty of grunt to pull the standard gearing, I like the extra versatility of the 16T for the dirt. It frees up the clutch a bit in slower technical stuff and the other positive (in terms of my licence at least) is that it keeps cruising speeds down a bit. Prior to the change I found myself looking down and seeing 130kph+ an alarming number of times when I felt like I was just poking along on best behaviour.

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Old 06-15-2013, 03:54 AM   #148
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- interesting! I switched my front sprocket two weeks ago (17 > 16T) and it is a big improvement in riding the 990. I understand 990's from 2009 onward have 16T in front. For the 1190(R) I would expect enough bottom power to pull the bike through difficult situations
G'Day,

It does have the power, it's more that you can let the speeds drop down further without feathering the clutch. Handy for rough or tight trails where the speeds are lower.
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Old 06-15-2013, 04:03 AM   #149
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Burren Rider, I've heard several 1190 owners complain of excessive heat on the left side of the bike. Have you noticed any heat problems on your leg or on the seat with your bike or are some folks just a little soft when it comes to motorcycle riding? I wonder if there is a heat problem with folks riding in Europe, how it will do here in the heat of Texas?
G'Day Dave,

I have felt the odd bit of heat on the left hand side but it is winter here in Oz so it hasn't been an issue so far. Maybe it will be in summer?

The 800 Tiger had a reputation for excessive heat (as would most multi's in tight going I imagine) but I never found it an issue wearing decent gear. Actually, the only time I noticed it was in traffic wearing ordinary pants.
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Old 06-15-2013, 03:03 PM   #150
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Prior to the change I found myself looking down and seeing 130kph+ an alarming number of times when I felt like I was just poking along on best behaviour.
On my R 110 ks indicated is only 100 ks true (GPS measured), so 130 is only 118. Your not such a criminal after all!
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