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Old 07-10-2013, 01:58 PM   #181
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>snip<... I purchased a Giant Loop Great Basin bag to cart some gear in and it fits nicely on the 1190. I had previously ran Wolfman Expedition panniers on my Tiger and I was really impressed with the way they worked but I think they will end up awfully wide on the KTM due to the width required on the RHS? The Giant Loop keeps the profile nice and compact (I tended to get caught on things in the bush with the wider saddlebags previously) and the quality of construction seems really good at first glance. Dalby Moto are manufacturing some racks to suit the Andy Strapz panniers that will keep the profile considerably slimmer but at this stage I like the idea of avoiding racks altogether so I will see how this works out?

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With a bit of luck I should have the plate and Giant Loop bag sorted on the weekend and will post some photo's next week.

Looking forward to seeing pics of a Great Basin on your bike! The deliberation and comparison between the different luggage designs was interesting to hear. Did you order the Great Basin from Adventuremoto?

This thread is full of good details and digi-porn for an 1190 dreamer like myself. I especially like the way you have defined the category that the bike fits in, for your use, plus you are showing the proof.

Setting some boundaries and intent for what you want the bike to do, keeps the disappointment from rising at the wrong time. (ie, I am disappointed my 950SM has such low hanging exhaust, it keeps getting bashed every time I land really hard in the rocks. It usually only bothers me after jumping a water bar or creek bank, but... oh wait, its an SM)
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:14 PM   #182
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I have been through this thread from the beginning and to this point , nothing has altered my initial opinion , I still can't see any reason to offload my 950SE for a 1190 ADV R .

Yep , it sounds nice and plenty of fun , but still will not do anything significantly better ( or any better at all ) than my SE , which now has done over 40,000 km of mostly hard core adv riding and trail riding and has not needed anything but general maintenance and the odd consumable replacements , except of course the regular need to replace those black doughnuts covering the rear rim that disappear at rapid rate proportionate to the twisting of the right wrist .

I am not dissing the 1190 , I am just still very much in love with my SE .

As an aside , I crashed my SE recently on an outback road ( read , sand covered hard pack clay ) at about 90 kph , only bent the bars and the bar mounts , the bar mounts were malleable enough to straighten out and I replaced the bars , apart from a few scratches on the front guard and tank shrouds you'd never know it has been down the road , I wonder if the 1190 R would suffer any significantly deeper issues in the same circumstance , any one seen how they fare in a crash test ?

Great thread and pics Danny !

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Old 07-10-2013, 09:41 PM   #183
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Have you had a go on a 1190 yet Alan?
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:13 AM   #184
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have you tried Marriotts Motorcycles in Leongatha (about 2 hours east of Melbourne) they have a test bike and one on the shoroom floor but unsure if they are for sale or just for show
Thanks mate, Ill give them a call tomorrow.. hopefully!!
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:21 AM   #185
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I have been through this thread from the beginning and to this point , nothing has altered my initial opinion , I still can't see any reason to offload my 950SE for a 1190 ADV R .

Yep , it sounds nice and plenty of fun , but still will not do anything significantly better ( or any better at all ) than my SE , which now has done over 40,000 km of mostly hard core adv riding and trail riding and has not needed anything but general maintenance and the odd consumable replacements , except of course the regular need to replace those black doughnuts covering the rear rim that disappear at rapid rate proportionate to the twisting of the right wrist .

I am not dissing the 1190 , I am just still very much in love with my SE .

As an aside , I crashed my SE recently on an outback road ( read , sand covered hard pack clay ) at about 90 kph , only bent the bars and the bar mounts , the bar mounts were malleable enough to straighten out and I replaced the bars , apart from a few scratches on the front guard and tank shrouds you'd never know it has been down the road , I wonder if the 1190 R would suffer any significantly deeper issues in the same circumstance , any one seen how they fare in a crash test ?

Great thread and pics Danny !

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Hey Mate, Id probably agree.. Same as the BMW's theres is nothing significantly better in the next model to make it worth trading in, cos the price u get for a trade in isnt worth it.. But, the question you need to ask is, if you were in the market for a New KTM (and didnt own one already) would you buy the 990 or the 1190?

If pissing superbikes off on traffic light drags as well as adv riding tickles ur fancy (or mine) then u cant go past the 1190 :P
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Old 07-11-2013, 04:08 AM   #186
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If pissing superbikes off on traffic light drags as well as adv riding tickles ur fancy (or mine) then u cant go past the 1190 :P
Amen! No need to chose between supersport and adventure any more!
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:08 AM   #187
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Keep theSE for all the reasons mentioned and consider adding a 1190 not replacing.

I don't think the 1190 is as durable as the SE but it has qualities that might grow on you. It's truly quick and friendly to handle.

Two excellent bikes from ktm. Can't go wrong.
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:27 AM   #188
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Heat...1190

This heat issue seams all so familiar when come from Harley Davdison! I rode them for 12 years...
People have been doing all kind of staff on harleys, for decades to help with heat from the V-twin engines... Summer time was awful with jeans on... hance you see Harley guys riding with legs wide open on foot rest
Not too look cool but keeping from getting burned!
I totally forgot about that since I have been riding a 1200GSA.... but despite wanting to trade it for a 1190R when it arrives in the USA, I sure will not get one to go back to the old Hot leg misery days.... Specially since we will not be able to get away riding like Harley rides do!
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:56 AM   #189
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Specially since we will not be able to get away riding like Harley rides do!
meaning like this?

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Old 07-11-2013, 03:52 PM   #190
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This heat issue seams all so familiar when come from Harley Davdison! I rode them for 12 years...
People have been doing all kind of staff on harleys, for decades to help with heat from the V-twin engines... Summer time was awful with jeans on... hance you see Harley guys riding with legs wide open on foot rest
Not too look cool but keeping from getting burned!
I totally forgot about that since I have been riding a 1200GSA.... but despite wanting to trade it for a 1190R when it arrives in the USA, I sure will not get one to go back to the old Hot leg misery days.... Specially since we will not be able to get away riding like Harley rides do!
I am sure the 1190 heat issues can be dealt with. I commuted to work for over two years in HOT-Lanta (90+ degree heat and humidity) on an SE that gave off extra heat on the right inside thigh due to upswept exhaust. A sheepskin seat cover and holding my right knee out a bit in stop and go traffic did the trick for any heat issues.

It made going to and from work more enjoyabe etc. Now I am retired . . . Looking forward to the 1190R . . . May get a 19" front tire for the curvy mountain roads too.



I got this idea from the 1190A frame heat issue:

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Old 07-11-2013, 05:32 PM   #191
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I so want one of these bikes.. Does anyone know of anywhere that has one in stock? I'm willing to go anywhere in aust to get it.

My last hope was KTM brisbane but they have a deposit on there 1 now.. :(

Otherwise there is no more until January next year..
BOLTON MOTORCYCLES in Kyneton Vic has a few standard grey ones left, that's where I ordered mine last week. Getting it transported up to Sydney.

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Is there anyone near Wollonhong that owns an 1190. Mat from rock hard rally gear is looking to develop a bash plate/ tool box but can't get hold of a bike. Would be a deal involved to anyone that can lend him a bike. I would lend him mine but I'm in brisbane I have one fitted to my 640 and would like one for my 1190. If anyone is interested I can foward his number.
I'm located in Wollongong, My bike left the dealership in Victoria 2 days ago and I'm expecting to get it here sometime next week, id be happy to work something out with him.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:35 PM   #192
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But, the question you need to ask is, if you were in the market for a New KTM (and didnt own one already) would you buy the 990 or the 1190?

If pissing superbikes off on traffic light drags as well as adv riding tickles ur fancy (or mine) then u cant go past the 1190 :P
Spot on S_R.

The million dollar question!

My answer, bought the 1190R.

It ticks all the right boxes for me moving on from an F800GS.

Let the farkling begin!!
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Old 07-12-2013, 04:47 AM   #193
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BOLTON MOTORCYCLES in Kyneton Vic has a few standard grey ones left, that's where I ordered mine last week. Getting it transported up to Sydney.
Thanks Mate, I'll call them tomorrow..
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Spot on S_R.

The million dollar question!

My answer, bought the 1190R.

It ticks all the right boxes for me moving on from an F800GS.

Let the farkling begin!!
hell yeah, another happy BMW to KTM converter.. I was going to upgrade the F650 twin to the F800 but since this orange beast has came along, I'm going down the orange path..

In Comparison, how have you found the size/weight in dirt compared to the f800?
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:54 AM   #195
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The bike is warm but you get use to it and like others who suggested to point the knees out every so often to get that cool breeze it works a trick. I ride in 32c heat.

I can lose a bit of excess weight so I don't mind the heat. Saves me a trip to the gym...lol
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