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Old 05-20-2013, 02:41 PM   #16
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- awesome pics; you must be doing this for a living... .
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:36 PM   #17
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In San Diego, California and loving the pics!

I am 52 years old, 6'4, 265lbs and ride a 2010 990 Adventure because frankly my days of riding a 450 on the single track are well behind me. That said, from the moment I sat on the 990 2 years ago I knew I found something special. This bike has allowed me the ability to explore places my Jeep can't go and are too far to ride on a 500Exe or other enduro.

Now I see the 1190 approaching and I'm wondering two things:
1 - Will it be coming to the USA and when?
2 - I your opinion, how does the 1190r compare to the 990r? Dirt or street.

Thanks again and please keep it coming!
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:14 AM   #19
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- awesome pics; you must be doing this for a living... .
Anyway, keep us posted 'up-here'
Burren Rider ( Danny ) is an accountant , but takes awesome pics , his pics are better than plenty of pro photographers photos in my opinion .



Keep the thoughts and pics comin Danny !
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:07 AM   #20
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Well well well, I heard a rumour last night that you'd picked up one of these beasts Danny! Great info and pics mate
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:53 PM   #21
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BR, thanks for the reply.

I took the std 1190 for a test ride, but couldn't see me taking it where I normally ride the Sherco.

The R is looking interesting though. Unfortunately the dealer can't get a demo as most of the R's are already spoken for.
I was fortunate to spend a bit of time testing the standard 1190 for a new magazine and while it was a great all rounder I think the R is certainly the bike for off-road work. The 21" front makes a big difference in my experience and it lets you run proper off road tyres (the choices in a 19" front for genuine knobbies are a bit limited). The extra suspension travel and clearance are also big advantages in the dirt.

Having said that the standard model is still a nice bike.




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Old 05-21-2013, 10:11 PM   #22
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Question for you: My chief concern with KTM having stuffed the RC8 motor into a "dirt" bike is did they get the low end right. Saying it another way, does the bike behave way down low like a 650 single (tractor, pulls from nowhere), or more like a 450 single with less low end but a nice midrange punch (lighter flywheel effect)?
G'Day,

This was one of my main concerns with the new bike but I think they have really nailed the engine characteristics. In the off road mode it is smooth and tractable with plenty of grunt but not so much that it is a handful in tight going. In sport mode, the thing is an animal but in a strange contradiction, still controllable if you exercise some restraint. I am yet to experience any jerky throttle response or go looking for power and come up short. It will pull cleanly from really low revs if required and the engine is free from vibration until you really start to work it. Pretty impressive stuff so far.

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Old 05-21-2013, 10:15 PM   #23
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Superb photos Danny and very interesting read

I can see an 1190R in my future for sure...but i'm not rushing out to sell my SE for a new one - my plan is to wait untill spring next year here in the UK when i will search for a 12 month old one that some one with lots of money has bolted all the right bits on ready for me...

we not daft from Wales you know (well most of us)
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Thanks.

As Al (OFBM) mentioned, it isn't my day job but I do take it pretty seriously these days and that has led to opportunities within the publishing industry.

Primarily though, I just love riding bikes and taking photo's.
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In San Diego, California and loving the pics!

I am 52 years old, 6'4, 265lbs and ride a 2010 990 Adventure because frankly my days of riding a 450 on the single track are well behind me. That said, from the moment I sat on the 990 2 years ago I knew I found something special. This bike has allowed me the ability to explore places my Jeep can't go and are too far to ride on a 500Exe or other enduro.

Now I see the 1190 approaching and I'm wondering two things:
1 - Will it be coming to the USA and when?
2 - I your opinion, how does the 1190r compare to the 990r? Dirt or street.

Thanks again and please keep it coming!
Cheers,
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G'Day Steve,

I still like riding a dirt bike but, like you, I enjoy the freedom of the big adventure bikes. Yesterday was spent riding the 1190 and it was one of the best days I have had on the bike in a while. I was on my own, with no particular plan and just let the day go where the track took me. I rode trails for 200 kilometers, sat by the ocean eating a bread roll and then wicked it up on the bitumen coming home. It was an awesome day and although I would have happily done it on my DRZ, I may have been more inclined to stay in the scrub and not venture to beach in the afternoon. Sitting there, beside a new bike, with the sun dropping behind the horizon was pretty special.




As far as comparison's go, I really haven't spent a lot of time on a 990 so I wouldn't want to put my foot in it. I can say that the 1190 makes a sensational road bike (bear in mind that I am primarily a dirt bike rider). It is smooth, easy to ride and feels light around town. In the dirt I can't really tell you how they would compare except to say that riding it yesterday I was thinking to myself that the bike would be capable of going anywhere I would want to reasonably take a big bike. It jumped erosion mounds, ploughed through some freshly bulldozed sand tracks (ie. loose powder) and skipped through muddy ruts.

Now this may be the new bike syndrome talking (quite likely) but I was really impressed with it and began to understand the LC8 obsession. I have mates who have been quick to turn over motorcycles (not unlike myself) who have purchased a 950 / 990 and held onto them like a pirate covets treasure. I could never really comprehend it but pulling off the beach yesterday and giving it a squirt on the bitumen, I am starting to come around. Hopefully this bike works out well because I feel it corrupting me already.
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G'Day Al,

I nearly ended up with a Super Enduro not too long ago. Found one going really cheap in Brisbane but I dug a bit deeper and there was a bit more to the story.
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Well well well, I heard a rumour last night that you'd picked up one of these beasts Danny! Great info and pics mate
G'Day Bill,

It was a hard decision to part with the Tiger. I put it on the Fleamarket to test the waters and in no time it was gone. I had some serious sellers remorse for a while but it was going to a good home and I consoled myself with that.

Good fun playing with a new toy though.
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Superb photos Danny and very interesting read

I can see an 1190R in my future for sure...but i'm not rushing out to sell my SE for a new one - my plan is to wait untill spring next year here in the UK when i will search for a 12 month old one that some one with lots of money has bolted all the right bits on ready for me...

we not daft from Wales you know (well most of us)
G'Day,

I reckon if I had an SE in the shed I wouldn't be parting with it in a hurry either. Having been fortunate to spend a bit of time on them in the past, they have always left me with a big grin. I had previously been looking around for a good one in Oz for a decent price but they have become a bit of a collectors item and are priced accordingly. The 1190 is a great compromise for me though, being used as an all rounder.
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Part of the learning curve on any new bike is figuring out it's quirks. The KTM has some really nice features that I have discovered so far but there are a couple of oversights that make you wonder, like the sidestand. Does KTM leave this job for the work experience students to design? Why must they bolt part of the bracket to the engine and why do they think that a 200kg+ bike will be supported by a sidestand with a foot the size of a small cracker? It's a minor detail I know but it sure makes it a pain to park in the bush on softer ground. Yesterday I resorted to leaning the bar against a tree because I couldn't work it out. An extension plate is on the way.

On the positive side the centrestand works really well, it is easy to get the bike onto it most of the time.

Another interesting observation is the Daytime Running Light. The run of LED's below the regular headlight are great for visibility and save running the regular light during the day but I can't seem to turn the option off permanently. When stationery, a menu appears that allows you to do so, but next time you start the bike it forgets that option and reverts to the DRL mode (ie normal light only comes on when it senses a drop in ambient light). I am guessing it's a software glitch but for now I am going to find the sensor and put some tape over it. In case you are wondering, the reason for doing so is that last night I was riding on a country road and the lights of an oncoming car seemed to trip the sensor and turn the lights off leaving me with the glow worm illumination of the LED's. Not my idea of fun at 100kph on a dark night?

Another idiosyncrasy at this stage is the ABS mode selection. Selecting the Off Road engine map doesn't change the ABS preference which still defaults to Road each time you start the bike. I guess it is a safety feature but it would be nice if the Off Road ABS feature (which works really well) stayed on while it was in that mode?

The positives are are numerous though. The bike is really put together to my eye. Most details are finished off nicely and I think it will age well, even with dirt use. The rear axle alignment bolts are exposed with the new design and won't be sitting in swing arm moisture. There is a plastic shroud under the bottom triple clamp that stops trail debris coming up through the gap and covering the rider and wiring with mud. The foot pegs are height adjustable and the bars can be moved forward and back to tailor the ergonomics. The screen works quite well but is noisy, albeit free from buffeting. Front header pipe is very exposed but nothing a decent bash plate won't sort out.

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hi 'mate' ,

Most interesting observations/review you have made so far... I have taken a testride on the normal 1190 and was impressed by it's road capabilities compared to my 990. Nevertheless I do not think of switching to a 1190 yet simply because I still have loads of fun with the 990 esp. off-road. A 1190R will probably be parked one day outside my door but that will not be the case in the near future. Untill then I enjoy reading your adventures with the 1190R
Once more my compliments for your photography

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