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Old 05-25-2013, 10:32 PM   #16
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This is the price at KTM Versand in Germany

The two rubber bands go for
60310177100 gasket rubber 4.5" X 18" 33.20€
60310073000 Rim band 18" 15.65€

The holes are eccentric. The valve stem is not included.
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Old 05-26-2013, 07:51 AM   #17
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I've been thinking of running nitrogen in the high pressure bladders.
Has anyone tried that yet?
It would be nice not to have to check and fill the high pressure so often.
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Old 05-26-2013, 01:03 PM   #18
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Great ideas coming in here.

One question though regarding the front the SE does not have the ribbed rim to stop the tire bailing in the event of a flat?
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:09 AM   #19
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The Adv doesn't have a ribbed rim either.

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Some feel this unnerving. A tubeless rim shape could be needed. I will check with a dealer on the availability of the rim bands.
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Why nitrogen would not escape from tubliss high pressure bladders? Is it denser and does not pass from the pores of the material?
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Some feel this unnerving. A tubeless rim shape could be needed. I will check with a dealer on the availability of the rim bands.
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Why nitrogen would not escape from tubliss high pressure bladders? Is it denser and does not pass from the pores of the material?
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Some feel this unnerving. A tubeless rim shape could be needed. I will check with a dealer on the availability of the rim bands.
Yeah I don't know, would only be an issue in a blow out and lets face it if a tube blows out you are in no better position really

Is there any reason that the bladder needs to be 120 psi when the std tube is only 30?, I know it need to seat the rire firm on the bead but that is a very high pressure.
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:27 PM   #22
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The gasket rubbers are sold as spares.

The 1190 R rims are: the front one 2.5" and rear 4.5" while my 2004 rims are 2.15" and 4". I wonder if that would be crucial to let the "gasket rubber" seal properly.
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:27 AM   #23
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Tubliss - Jeff Douglas

My experience - Tubliss extended my front tire life considerably on a Karoo2 (non-T, not that it should matter). Had two flats on the "old" rim lock that was flat and had a non-countersunk bolt. Rather well-known failure mode though not exactly common (2 times in 14,500 miles riding in lots of dirt, rock gardens and the pot-holed path that is the Transfargasan in Romania).

Jeff is "overly" safe as an engineer. I don't dislike that. But the new Tubliss have both a countersunk bolt for the rim lock AND a beveled shape at the rim lock. I running that now and will use it this summer in Siberia providing my Russian Visa comes through.

In both of my flats, one at 40MPH the tire did not come off the rim. On the steppe in Mongolia, after riding for several hours in sand and goat heads I finally felt a clunk. Without the goat heads I'd have continued riding.

I think it's a fantastic system and very safe, though not DOT approved, on the recommended wheel sizes (1.6/1.85/2.15).
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:41 AM   #24
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The 1190 R rims are: the front one 2.5" and rear 4.5" while my 2004 rims are 2.15" and 4". I wonder if that would be crucial to let the "gasket rubber" seal properly.
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Not sure if you realize it but the Saxxess tubeless rim have a special design, the dish is exactly the right width for the rubber strip. The Husaberg FS570 has a 4.25" rim with the same sealing technology, however I doubt either would work on standard Behr rims.
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