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Old 07-10-2014, 11:37 AM   #1
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Oil threads are fun!

This is something written by one of the wisest bike mechanics on the planet.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2014/07/04...MzYwNTgyNDU1S0
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:15 PM   #2
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Old 07-10-2014, 03:19 PM   #3
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Other than to describe the various states of lubrication that oils provide this article did almost nothing to answer the question of which oil to use, it suggests that the primary difference between wear protection lies in the additive package not in the base stock and alludes that synthetic oil is a waste of money unless the manufacturer recommends it for your specific engine.

One major factor that was not mentioned is marketing, my uncle is an engineer for GM, he was part of the design team that designed the Gen-III V-8 engines back in the 90's, the current truck engines are similar in design to the high performance LS series engines used in the C-5, C-6 and C7 engines.
I asked my uncle years ago why the Corvettes required synthetic engine oil and yet the trucks and most other GM engines did not, his answer was: "Virtually all engines will benefit from the use of synthetic oil, in the case of the Corvette we are marketing the car to a customer who typically wants the best and has no problem paying extra to maintain the vehicle, in the case of trucks and passenger cars; if GM were to recommend using synthetic oil Ford and Dodge could capitalize by telling potential customers that their engines don't require expensive synthetic oil".
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:06 PM   #4
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This is something written by one of the wisest bike mechanics on the planet.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2014/07/04...MzYwNTgyNDU1S0

Thread oil N: 34756.

Now lets see how many pages this time.. Any bets??
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:16 PM   #5
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My bike only holds two quarts so what I do is pour in one quart of Rotella Dino oil and one quart of Synthetic bike oil. That way I am covered no matter what conditions I am riding in.
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:24 PM   #6
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Other than to describe the various states of lubrication that oils provide this article did almost nothing to answer the question of which oil to use, it suggests that the primary difference between wear protection lies in the additive package not in the base stock and alludes that synthetic oil is a waste of money unless the manufacturer recommends it for your specific engine.

One major factor that was not mentioned is marketing, my uncle is an engineer for GM, he was part of the design team that designed the Gen-III V-8 engines back in the 90's, the current truck engines are similar in design to the high performance LS series engines used in the C-5, C-6 and C7 engines.
I asked my uncle years ago why the Corvettes required synthetic engine oil and yet the trucks and most other GM engines did not, his answer was: "Virtually all engines will benefit from the use of synthetic oil, in the case of the Corvette we are marketing the car to a customer who typically wants the best and has no problem paying extra to maintain the vehicle, in the case of trucks and passenger cars; if GM were to recommend using synthetic oil Ford and Dodge could capitalize by telling potential customers that their engines don't require expensive synthetic oil".
I didn't use synthetic oil in my Corvette (1963, FI coupe) 'cause it wasn't invented yet. Wish I had that car today...
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My bike only holds two quarts so what I do is pour in one quart of Rotella Dino oil and one quart of Synthetic bike oil. That way I am covered no matter what conditions I am riding in.
Good gracious...my lawn mower holds that much oil.
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Good gracious...my lawn mower holds that much oil.

Hmmmm, maybe I should run law mower oil in it?
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Good gracious...my lawn mower holds that much oil.
A lawn mower that holds 2 quarts of oil?
Do you have a picture of it?
What oil do you run in it?
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The lawn mower gets Mobil1 5-30 synthetic with a Purolator filter...well, maybe not quite 2 quarts but still. The engine is a 749cc V-twin, vertical shaft.
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So what are talking here a 3 speed tranny with an onboard grass catcher?
Is it green, orange or red?
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:45 PM   #12
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The lawn mower gets Mobil1 5-30 synthetic with a Purolator filter...well, maybe not quite 2 quarts but still. The engine is a 749cc V-twin, vertical shaft.
Gracious, that's a bigger engine than my bike!
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I read everyone of these oil threads start to finish, not trying to learn anything, I know whats best "for me"
it's like a train wreck I can't turn away...
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:47 PM   #14
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What I want to know is how the heck you can't learn anything from an oil thread?
I learnt that def's mower is bitchin.
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What I want to know is how the heck you can't learn anything from an oil thread?
I learnt that def's mower is bitchin.
Well I could explain but that would require photos and graphs, and it is such a slippery subject anyway....
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