ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Thumpers
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-31-2013, 06:48 AM   #16
KTM Basel AG
"Ready to Race"
 
KTM Basel AG's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Location: Basel
Oddometer: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by ErŅete View Post
I have sent an email, I hope your answer soon.
Yes, thanks, got it. You already have a reply.
KTM Basel AG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2013, 11:38 AM   #17
Jan from Finland
Registered
 
Joined: May 2005
Oddometer: 545
I must say this is the best looking conversion so far. However, there are small issues besides the high cost.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KTM Basel AG View Post
It's our idea to ship this 690 Quest kit to all countries. I don't see a problem for the US market.
The steering lock is removed and head lights are changed. It doesn't fulfill the original European Union type aproval.
Is there any way to keep the steering lock in place? Is the removal a convenience or a functional requirement?
Are the head light markings according to the EU regulations for road use? What is the beam peak intensity reference number?
Don't you have a requirement for blinkers is Switzerland?

How about the rear frame or lack of it? In some pictures you had quite a lot of luggage? Which rear racks fit with the rear tank?
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you are ever attacked by lion, your best defense is to shove your arm down
their throat, grabbing the back of their tongue and hope help arrives quickly.
- Pro Travel Tip by Overland Journal
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan from Finland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2013, 12:36 AM   #18
Colebatch
"Moto Porn"ographer
 
Colebatch's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Location: Schmocation
Oddometer: 3,960
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yellow Pig View Post
It's just a tricked out Alberto Dottori Kit.

http://www.albertodottori.net/ktm%20...ica%20race.htm
OK I am going to knock this one on the head.

I thought about the Dottori kit a few years ago, when I considered a 690 to replace my XChallenge. One look at it told me its not adventure worthy. Its maybe suitable for some light desert rallying, but it has no durability.

The tanks are not the right shape, not in the right position and the angle of the fairing is also incorrect.

The tanks are not durable. That are not made out of normal tough tank material. They are not OEM. They are not finished.

The fairing tower is way too understrength for serious adventure work ...



To mount quality headlights on that tower alone would break it. You can only run the cheapest lightest lights you can find. 12V downlights, like you find in your home, not lights that meet any kind of DOT or ECE approval for use on the road.

Look how its mounted to the headstock !!

In short, the Dottori kit is as cheap as you can possibly make it. You dont even need to re-route the exhaust. If thats what you are after, thats fine. As I mentioned, I looked at the Dottori kit a couple of years back and quickly decided that its absolutely not for me.

On the other hand, a kit full of OEM KTM Rally parts, like the KTM Basel Kit is a TOTALLY different matter. Thats quality stuff thats been tested year in year out in the Dakar.

Once again, this kit re-ignites my interest in switching to a 690 as my future "big rig" adventure bike. I will be checking this kit out in coming months myself.
__________________
*** New Sibirsky Extreme Trail DVD Trailer HERE ***
Moroccan Extreme 2011 DVD available HERE
World Motorcycle Altitude Record video HERE
Sibirsky Extreme - The Home of Adventure Motorcycling in Siberia and Mongolia - On Facebook

Colebatch screwed with this post 06-01-2013 at 01:03 AM
Colebatch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2013, 08:22 PM   #19
tileman
Studly Adventurer
 
tileman's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Location: Melbourne, OZ
Oddometer: 836
If someone is going to purchase this kit I'm after a 690 enduro tank so get intouch via PM
__________________
If ignorance is bliss, why arenīt more people happy?????
tileman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2013, 02:41 AM   #20
dune73
n00b
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Oddometer: 8
HI, the Dottoi's support isn't hard.. 2 years ago my friend bought a vcomplete kit to ride a pharaons rally.. afer 2 stages all will be broken. Last year i start to produce a coplete nav tower to replace Dottori's material with mine exact copy of oem. Look my facebook account
Andrea

http://www.facebook.com/andrea.diand...2305272732%3A6
dune73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2013, 02:00 PM   #21
BillyD
Studly Adventurer
 
BillyD's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: San Mateo County Coast, CA
Oddometer: 634
Defy Tank on a 690 RFR???

I wonder if the rear tank from the Defy kit would fit on a 690 RFR. At 4.6 gallons (18l), the RFR tank is big, heavy and precludes most types of luggage, not to mention very expensive to replace.

Here are the lower tank tab mounts for a standard 690 SM and a 690 RFR. I wonder if 12.5mm could be trimmed off both sides of the Defy tank lower mount to fit the 690 RFR frame?

__________________
Bill

KTM '08 690 RFR, '08 990Adv S (carbs), '07 640Adv, '03 540EXC, Ducati 851, Moto Guzzi 850 Lemans, Ercole & 2VT and Yamaha RD350.
BillyD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2013, 04:39 PM   #22
tidbits
Adventurer
 
tidbits's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Location: Brisbane
Oddometer: 20
Defy kit news?

Any news on this kit?? Has anyone on adv fitted one of these to their 690?

Cheers,

Stuart
tidbits is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 08:10 AM   #23
bastimentos
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Location: Ticino, Switzerland
Oddometer: 103
Questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by Colebatch View Post
On the other hand, a kit full of OEM KTM Rally parts, like the KTM Basel Kit is a TOTALLY different matter. Thats quality stuff thats been tested year in year out in the Dakar.

Once again, this kit re-ignites my interest in switching to a 690 as my future "big rig" adventure bike. I will be checking this kit out in coming months myself.
I was not aware that this kit used OEM KTM Rally parts tested in the Dakar?

The website says that they are a dealer and made the kit themselves - surely they would be advertising it if everything was OEM and Dakar tested?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan from Finland View Post

Are the head light markings according to the EU regulations for road use?

Don't you have a requirement for blinkers is Switzerland?

How about the rear frame or lack of it? In some pictures you had quite a lot of luggage? Which rear racks fit with the rear tank?
Would really like to see these questions answered, if possible.

Looking forward to some real world feedback coming in as the kits get delivered this month to pre-order customers.
bastimentos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 09:13 AM   #24
Nowwhat
I'll Go Second...
 
Nowwhat's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Location: On the Ground Laughing
Oddometer: 4,484
subscribed....

Need this or need RR to come out with their EVO3
__________________
'14 1190R...Adventure Beast
'13 690 Quest...Rally Beast
950SE......Desert Beast
'Berg 570..Trail Beast
Nowwhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 03:18 PM   #25
DRjoe
Beastly Adventurer
 
DRjoe's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Sunshine coast qld
Oddometer: 4,840
A friend of mine is developing this DIFFERENT kit in Australia.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=884115


Its based of the 690rfr but the tanks have been redesigned to fit the newer model 690 frame and seat.
he's also installed the fuel pump in the front tank instead of the rear so now the fuel pump is completely submerged untill the very last few litres of fuel are used.
I think keeping the pump and filters always submerged in fuel will make the pump and filters last longer.

They originally used the 690 enduro light but are switching to the twin 60mm Hellas like the genuine 690 rally

DRjoe screwed with this post 09-27-2013 at 07:21 PM Reason: Moved the link higher in the post and reworded the post to avoid confusing people.
DRjoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 04:00 PM   #26
bastimentos
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Location: Ticino, Switzerland
Oddometer: 103
Clear as mud

Edit: Cleared up. DRjoe's statement was mistaken.

KTM Basel = Quest kit.

Winna produces the 700RR kit in Oz.

Completely separate developments, no parts shared.

bastimentos screwed with this post 09-27-2013 at 05:14 PM
bastimentos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 04:31 PM   #27
gen
Studly Adventurer
 
gen's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Location: Tokyo
Oddometer: 685
Quote:
Originally Posted by DRjoe View Post
A friend of mine is developing this kit.
Cool! Does your friend have an account on ADV?

Would he be willing to join to answer questions?

I think people are interested in the kit but there is much less information on it than other kits, and the price is higher, so having more info on the kit would help a lot to differentiate it.

KTM Basel needs to do a much better job of marketing it. More detailed website, etc.
__________________
DoD#1458 | GaijinRiders | 2010 KTM 690 Enduro
gen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 04:59 PM   #28
winna
n00b
 
winna's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Gold Coast
Oddometer: 114
700rr

Good morning from Australia,

Whoa whoa whoa, let's just clear a few things up, KTM Basel kits have NO affiliation with the kits being developed in Australia.
It's not my place to hijack this thread or make comment on their products other than to say they have done a excellent job.
I can be PMed or you can ask questions on the Oz forum under 700rr adventure thread.

Thank you winna



QUOTE=bastimentos;22428621]So this is being built by an Aussie, and marketed by a Swiss KTM dealer? Could you clarify the relationship between the two - as they (KTM Basel) are openly stating they developed and made the (Quest) kit, which is confusing.

Looking at the tread you linked to (thank you) it appears he has gone and had moulds made up for the tanks etc, so this kit (700RR / Quest / whatever they are calling it) is not made from KTM factory rally parts tested in Dakar as speculated by Colebatch?

Don't get me wrong it looks fantastic and I'm eager to know more, but I was significantly more excited about factory tested parts being used.[/QUOTE]
winna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 05:19 PM   #29
bastimentos
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Location: Ticino, Switzerland
Oddometer: 103
Haha righto that's sorted that mess out then.

I guess we'll keep this thread on topic for the Quest kit, I've asked KTM Basel to comment here to clear up previous questions that have been asked so we can get some more information. (Are they factory parts etc?)

In the mean time I'll be looking over winna's 700RR thread trying to spot the differences, clearly they were similar enough to confuse his mate DRjoe
bastimentos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 06:15 PM   #30
DRjoe
Beastly Adventurer
 
DRjoe's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Sunshine coast qld
Oddometer: 4,840
Oops
DRjoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 03:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014