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Old 07-09-2013, 05:24 AM   #181
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It is what it is; Montana doesn't have anything like Deal's Gap, but they don't have the Big Sky either.

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forget Deal's Gap, i've made my choices, and that place didn't make the cut.

i've stated my thoughts on horsepower previously, more on that subject coming up too.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:10 AM   #182
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geeez, now we not only need a ride report, but also a video of your performance at Aspen.
How 'bout a photo from the newspaper?

http://www.aspendailynews.com/files/...qua_274_cj.jpg

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Old 07-09-2013, 06:39 AM   #183
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Big Sky Country.

You're going to see some of this terrain if you stay on the east side of the divide in Montana. There are some open vista's on the west side also, but not quite as many. It is possible to route from Cody to Gardner MT and the north entrance of YNP, but then you miss Beartooth pass.

It is what it is; Montana doesn't have anything like Deal's Gap, but they don't have the Big Sky either.

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I think it's GORGEOUS! (and a particularly nice photo, DP) Didn't mean to seem like I was knocking the view or the experience. Lots of places in CO look very similar.... long straight stretches of road that seem to go nowhere in particular, ringed by mountains and topped off by dirty-whipped-cream weather systems! Luckily, in the West we're usually not far from a twisty... and you can get these roads and the Beartooth in the same day-
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:04 AM   #184
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How 'bout a photo from the newspaper?

http://www.aspendailynews.com/files/...qua_274_cj.jpg

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there ya go!
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:07 AM   #185
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I think it's GORGEOUS!...
good save Mike, you can't be knocking Montana, you might be riding there some day.
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A little wind blown rain as I made my way west on 12, nothing to worry about yet. I was more annoyed with being stuck behind slow moving traffic which was building mile-by-mile as I got closer to Townsend at 287. I had been low on fuel for some miles and had backed it down a little. I anticipated being low on fuel, but not out of fuel, maybe I should carry a gallon in Mike’s fuel can, nah, what fun is that?

I stopped at the first quick mart I found, obligatory casino attached, one very busy place. Fuel, casino, beer, booze, tackle, bait, cigs, chew, tons of junk food…and a Red Box. Heck, the Red Box had people waiting in line. Fueled, talked briefly with a couple local bike guys, then wheeled the bike off to the side so I could spray the chain, convinced by now that it had a problem. It didn’t appear to be stretching, but wasn’t running smoothly either.

In for a drink, standing behind two very large young ladies trying to decide between the five or eight piece boxes of fried chicken, that’s eight pieces each folks, and when they both decided that the big box was the way to go, I envisioned plenty of chicken bones along the Montana roads ‘cause that chicken wasn’t going to make it home. Might not make it out of the parking lot, no wait, one of those women had a little drool at the corner of her mouth, and now I didn’t think that chicken would even make it to the car. If you’re a chicken rancher hereabouts, I wouldn’t let these two on the property.

Northwest on 287, and now the traffic looked more typical urban, and I was glad I didn’t take this road up from I90, my roads were a much better experience. By the time I got to East Helena and the I15 north ramp, I had the remaining miles in focus, knew the country in a general sort of way, and was ready to mark it down as an easy home stretch ride to St. Mary. I was wrong.

Like all the super slab runs on the trip, this section was also short, only 8 miles, and took me up to CR279, the Lincoln Highway from an earlier era. I could have used this road to by pass Helena entirely by turning north off 12, then rounding Lake Helena CCW, but I was unsure of fuel out there, and concerned about what I would find for road surfaces on my transported bike.

The Helena sprawl extends well north and west, and it took some miles once again to clear it all running generally northwest. The Lincoln road was the east/west road that connected to, big surprise, Lincoln, so it’s not surprising to find some old structures along this road.



I was on a good bike road again, the Helena National Forest and Rockies to the west and southwest.



Locals or come here adventurers could use a series of back roads through Canyon Creek to get themselves southeast to and from Walmart in Helena, but I was headed the other direction and in a hurry. In another bizarre twist of the “small world” cliché, I would meet a man from Lincoln while in Scagway, a guy I had first met in Fairbanks four years earlier. It could be said that I was getting’ around.

Haze in the air to the west, and as I crossed the Continental Divide again I could smell smoke, the source had to be close. Near the intersection with 200, I rode up on a small forest fire, no response team on the scene yet, plenty of beetle wood for fuel.



Northeast on 200, and I crossed the Divide, pull outs on all the big grades for snow chain installation and removal. I’m not living anywhere these days where chains could be needed, I’ve already done that chore in another life.



The country opened up to range again where the wind could beat on me, and it did. I’d noticed way back down the road that some ranchers had gone with a five strand sawbuck fence rather than conventional fence post and four stands. If I happened on a local cowboy, I intended to ask him about fencing, I’m sure it would be his favorite subject. No matter, I needed to know.



I crossed the Dearborn River and the view was northwest towards Twin Peaks and Scapegoat, peaks in the 9000 foot class.



Wild horses had been an infrequent sight compared to previous rides where I had seen many herds, maybe they had started rounding them up again. I did see some scattered horses, wary as antelope, and hard to get a photo.





Nearing the intersection with 287, patches of blue sky appearing from nowhere, wind gusts had to be near 40-50mph, and I was downshifting into my first overdrive gear even on the flats when the wind could bear on me directly, man, it was blowing.



There was an industrial sized ag operation near the intersection, an increasingly common sight on both sides of the border. This ranch had grain crops with grain storage, cattle, hay, alfalfa, poultry houses, and even a quarry, a massive operation. Maybe the future is here.



Rolling land to the northeast, not much out there,



while the view the opposite direction was towards the lower peaks of the Rockies.



I had my sights on Choteau for fuel, I was going to need it, and I had turned back towards some weather.



The mountains had gotten closer as I worked my way northwest, but I was ready for a break, I needed to get off the bike, stand out of the wind for a minute or two.



Improbably, the first thing I encountered at Choteau was a huge yard sale, many vehicles along the streets, must be popular everywhere, but I hadn’t expected it here. There was a big rock on top of anything that might fly away and end up stuck on some barb wire in Saskatchewan. Fueling, and a Toyota pickup pulled in, Alberta plates, and a dealer sticker from Red Deer. I asked the older driver whether he had known Bill Atchison up there in Red Deer, but it turned out the guy was local, and just the truck was from Alberta. When I asked why he didn’t have a Montana plate, the response was, let’s just say, circumspect.

I was standing there in Choteau, drinking Mountain Dew and swaying slightly back and forth, like I was standing on the deck of a ship in a building sea. I’d ridden in wind before, but this was a thousand miles of wind, throttle bodies open, and I knew that the last miles up 89 to Browning would be no better, might even be worse.

(to be continued…)
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:39 PM   #187
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I think it's GORGEOUS! (and a particularly nice photo, DP) Didn't mean to seem like I was knocking the view or the experience. Lots of places in CO look very similar.... long straight stretches of road that seem to go nowhere in particular, ringed by mountains and topped off by dirty-whipped-cream weather systems! Luckily, in the West we're usually not far from a twisty... and you can get these roads and the Beartooth in the same day-
Thanks for the clarification. I had shot several ideas to JD, however there are only a few twisty bits between Columbus and Browning without going completely out of your way. Lots of views like that road though.

Hwy 12 in the pass between White Sulphur and Townsend has a few nice turns, Flecher Pass (over the continetal divide) on the Lincoln road also has some turns.

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Old 07-09-2013, 08:53 PM   #188
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Like all the super slab runs on the trip, this section was also short, only 8 miles, and took me up to CR279, the Lincoln Highway from an earlier era. I could have used this road to by pass Helena entirely by turning north off 12, then rounding Lake Helena CCW, but I was unsure of fuel out there, and concerned about what I would find for road surfaces on my transported bike.





There was an industrial sized ag operation near the intersection, an increasingly common sight on both sides of the border. This ranch had grain crops with grain storage, cattle, hay, alfalfa, poultry houses, and even a quarry, a massive operation. Maybe the future is here.


I've been on the pavement around Canyon Ferry Lake, but haven't taken the gravel out. Its on the list of places to see. BTW Canyon Ferry is the first dam across the Mighty Mo.

Not sure about the ag operation you took a picture of, but the one down by Martinsdale is a Hutterite colony. Pretty aggressive operation but need to be that way because of the number of people they have in the Colony. They have their own ready supply of labor. There are some pretty big family operations though in that area from Choteau to Havre.

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Old 07-09-2013, 10:27 PM   #189
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Thanks for the clarification. I had shot several ideas to JD, however there are only a few twisty bits between Columbus and Browning without going completely out of your way. Lots of views like that road though.

Hwy 12 in the pass between White Sulphur and Townsend has a few nice turns, Flecher Pass (over the continetal divide) on the Lincoln road also has some turns.

David
What's the best route from Missoula to Red Lodge? Without adding too many miles? Looking at going through Helena/Bozeman at this point- We're doing Going to the Sun, Lolo Pass (just to the ID border) and Beartooth on consecutive days. Heaven!
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There are some pretty big family operations though in that area from Choteau to Havre.

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the operation in the photo was interesting because it was textbook vertical integration at a single facility.

some of the big operations i saw in Canada had a million bushel or more on site grain storage, and were adding more. huge operations.


hey cowboy, what's the story behind the 5 strand sawbuck fencing?

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What's the best route from Missoula to Red Lodge? Without adding too many miles?
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Cinched up, zipped up, temps falling, blowing a damn gale, and I was gone to Browning, the bike jumping around like there were pogo sticks where the wheels were supposed to be. Sky ominous to the west, besides wind, I didn’t have any idea what I would find on my way northwest. Looking at the mountains on the horizon, I swear it looked like it was snowing, oh boy.



Passing old buildings, swaybacked across the ridgeline, I always try to get a photo, never knowing if it will be gone by the time I hopefully get back.



I had broken through the front, the weather west of me temporarily, and I was battering my way up 89, shifting fourth through sixth, and wanting some cop motor horsepower badly.



I had parked the camera, it was too difficult to stop, and I was making some miles towards Browning when I saw another bike ahead of me, and with the distance closing quickly, I decided he was moving very slowly, likely trouble with the wind too. I caught the bike in a construction zone, new KLR loaded with gear, and passed with a wave. I planned to stop at the Blackfeet Nation sign, he probably would too.





Still playing with the camera when Ray from Arkansas rode in on his KLR, and if I thought I had wind problems, they were minor compared to what Ray was dealing with on his bike all day. The KLR was maxed at 45-55mph, and no amount of shifting or throttle could make it faster. Hmmm, I marked it down as a big problem when I couldn’t get to 80 in 6th, so some perspective was in order. Ray had a riding buddy waiting for him in Browning by now, away we went, except I wasn’t riding 45, and he wasn’t in the mirrors for a short minute.

I definitely had to stop for the “Cross Winds” sign, the sock sticking straight out, and I was thinking something like…no freakin’ kidding. The appropriate DOTs could have mounted one per mile all the way back to Colorado, that’s a lot of signs.



Gary, the other half of the Arkansas duo, was waiting in South Browning, I can’t say I’ve ever understood the distinction. Browning and South Browning seem to have equal amounts of junk and trash sitting around, the respective amounts increasing and decreasing depending on the direction and strength of the wind. South Browning was missing out today, however, the Browning trash was blowing right on through, destined to end up in Cut Bank by sundown.

Waiting for Ray, Gary and I talked about our respective trips, and I got a laugh when I told him what mine was about. In contrast, Gary and Ray had planned their trip for a year, and intended to spend the entire season riding the north. How’s that for a plan. Damn, if I did that my XO would have my motos on Craigslist in, say, about ten seconds, and where the price should be, the ad would say “No Unreasonable Offer Refused”. My riding would now be restricted to the lawn mower, no ATTGAT.

We decided to meet up again in St. Mary for dinner, I needed fuel too. I also had to find a place to camp, it was getting late, and if I said I was kinda tired, that would be a punch line in a time worn joke. Every time I passed through the intersection of 89 and 2, I’m reminded of the morning I found four dead horses in the middle of the road there, a horrific sight, but nobody in the Nation in any hurry to get things cleaned up.

Past the new casino, 89 above Browing isn’t a bad bike road, but there’s more traffic every time I use it. Steadily climbing, there are areas where beetle trees have been clear cut, I’m not sure how that wood is used. I got a chance to look back towards the weather front, something was on the way.



Closer to St. Mary, and I felt a few pings of sleet, then some wind blown snow flakes, and I mashed that gas, time to get off the road.



I met up with Ray and Gary at the small café north of the St. Mary lodge complex, a popular little place. Hot chili all around, and we talked about roads, I’d been to almost all the places they wanted to go. Yellowknife, yup, and they were considering a ride up there, Ingraham Trail too, been there. Both bikes had the 685 kit, Gary’s running fine, but Ray’s using oil somehow, no diagnosis yet, no obvious leaks either. They were going up to Waterton Lakes for the night, then back south for Going to the Sun…once in Alberta I would have kept on north, but it wasn’t my ride. Adios, my friends, safe travels, and they were gone.

I found a place with a roof, and not much else. It wasn’t my intention exactly, but it turned out to be the right decision as the night progressed. I was near the border, a challenge looming, and it wasn’t about riding or weather for a change. The next day would test my salesman’s pedigree, tinman, or deal closer, there was a lot on the line.


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Ooooh, border crossing: "May I see your papers, please?" (assuming they said please?)
Can't wait...

Here's a little more about why *I* couldn't ride the Versys to AK:

http://www.aspendailynews.com/section/home/158625


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if anyone knows Ray and Gary, the Arkansas KLR riders, i'd been interested in finding out how their trip is going.
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