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Old 07-10-2013, 06:10 PM   #196
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hmmmm. small cafe north of St Mary.
Park Cafe
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Johnson's
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Two Sisters

that's about all there is
was your roof Thronsons?
the old football coach from Tennesee holds court on the front porch of Thronsons every summer
he tells me I am crazy for climbing all those piles of rocks
I call him "Mr Majors" but others call him Johnny and he is a very kind fellow
you were right there JD at my old Montana home you drove by two of my kinfolk on Lower St Mary
been hangin there for over 40 years

carry on sir

did you take the Martinsdale cut off? cool road
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:19 AM   #197
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hmmmm. small cafe north of St Mary.
Park Cafe
or
Johnson's
or
Two Sisters

that's about all there is
was your roof Thronsons?
the old football coach from Tennesee holds court on the front porch of Thronsons every summer
he tells me I am crazy for climbing all those piles of rocks
I call him "Mr Majors" but others call him Johnny and he is a very kind fellow
you were right there JD at my old Montana home you drove by two of my kinfolk on Lower St Mary
been hangin there for over 40 years

carry on sir

did you take the Martinsdale cut off? cool road
it was the Park, i don't recall Johnsons, and Two Sisters looked like it had closed.

how are those camps on the west side of Lower St. Mary accessed? it looked like there were some new camps over there this time by. since you're local, now an expat Montanan wearing a cheesehead hat, what's the story on Chewing Blackbones?

i did take the cutoff road past Lennep, and it is a good moto road.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:19 AM   #198
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Day 4: St. Mary, Montana to Mt. Robson, British Columbia (585 miles)

I listened to the wind howl all night, couldn’t help it, sounded like the roof was going to blow off my rental shack, glad I wasn’t in Mike’s new tent, it would have been trying to fold up with me in it. I went out to check the bike, half expecting to see it on the ground, blown over, but it was still standing, and I loaded up for a quick getaway.



I doubt any campers would be standing in line to sign up for my fan club when I fired that Leo Vince equipped motor, especially since the computer ups the idle to 2000rpm until the chill is off, nothing ya can do about it either. Gotta run, I was still in Montana, might be some firearms handy to this crowd. No time for gunfire, I had a job to do.

Last night I wanted to ride up the road a bit and see if Chewing Blackbones was open, camp there, just to say I did. Fact was, I’ve never found it open, but this morning I did find that it had been completely upgraded, must be some casino money floating around.



I was heading to Chief Mountain International Highway, those inclined towards the less wordy call it 17. Past Lower St. Mary Lake, then up through Babb, this section of 89 was not showing much for prosperity, with many closed businesses and other buildings in disrepair.

The turn northwest on 17, then only a mile, and I was looking back at Glacier from the north, a view not many see.









I’d seen stock on this road before, but wasn’t prepared for what I found this morning, cattle everywhere, must be hundreds. Any fencing was keeping the cattle on the road, not off, a cheap way to acquire grazing range. Don’t hit one, you might end up in the Blackfeet Nation Tribal Court, guess what would happen then, ya might find yourself locked up in a teepee with a bunch of mouth breathers sleeping off a bad case of desperation.





Almost no traffic on the road at this hour, but those red tour cars from Glacier do get up here. The early sun was on the mountains, cool air, and I was doing the run and gun up to the border, the view endless.





I was watching for cattle, but hoping to see other animals too.



Nearing the border, and took time for a few more.




At the border, sitting at the stop sign in front of Canada Customs, I was resigned to some close questioning. If this border crossing didn’t happen, the trip was over, period. It wouldn’t be worth the effort to backtrack and try a different crossing point, today’s data would already be in the system and accessed instantly at a repeated attempt. Got the green light, motored ahead to the window, and shut it down, helmet off next. I always start a trip with a milspec buzz, and combined with my age, there’s a subtle message sent, a vibe conveyed. I was counting on it.

I handed over my passport, it was scanned, and the first question came immediately, no friendly chit-chat agent here.

Agent: “Where do you live?”
JD: “Cobbs Creek, Virginia…that’s in eastern Virginia.”
Agent: “What is the state and number on your license plate?”
JD: “I have it written down right here, since you didn’t have cameras the last time.”
Agent: “We have cameras now.”
JD: “That’s good, saves some steps.”
Agent: “Who owns this motorcycle?”
JD: “Michael Monroney, in Aspen, Colorado.”
Agent: “A Mr. Mulroney in Colorado?”
JD: “No, Monroney, with an O.”
Agent: “Why are you trying to enter Canada on a motorcycle that you don’t own?”
JD: “Mr. Monroney asked me to deliver his motorcycle to Anchorage.”, and at that point his eyes rolled back so far, heck, I could see hair roots, and I knew he thought he’d caught himself a winner, the first of the day. Maybe, just maybe, he didn’t believe me.
Agent: “Anchorage, why is that?”
JD: “Mr. Monroney had a schedule conflict and had to cancel a week of vacation.”
Agent: “Explain Anchorage.”
JD: “He’s meeting another rider there, so the bike still had to get to Alaska.”
Agent: “He authorized you to ride this motorcycle?”
JD: “Yes, he did, here’s the authorization form and insurance certificate.”
Agent: “You would not be entering Canada if this form had not been notarized.”
JD: “That’s what I told Mr. Monroney.”
Agent: “How many days will you be in Canada?”
JD: “Five.”
Agent: “What is the amount of currency you have on your person?”
JD: “$1000.”
Agent: “What other means of payment are you carrying?”
JD: “Credit cards.”
Agent: “More than one?”
JD: “Yes.”
Agent: “Welcome to Canada.”
JD: “Thanks, can I get my passport stamped?”
Agent: “No.”, and he abruptly walked away, I must have caused him to miss his favorite morning segment on CBC, possibly that gigantic lump of Red River he’d consumed for breakfast wasn’t riding quite right…or he was pissed about the Stanley Cup being locked up below 49 again, that malady was already noted several times in the Canadian health system under the heading “DIMENTIA”.

I expected having to explain the bike, but I’d never been asked a cocky doody currency question in all my years of border crossings, hey, I was just visiting, not taking up residency in Canuckistan, after all, I heard they get snow.

A burden had been lifted, at least for five days, I still had to get the bike into Alaska. At least I wouldn’t have to call Mike with some bad news today, the bike was officially across the border. I was hungry as heck, breakfast was in Pincher Creek, a ways up the Cowboy Trail. I had a thousand bucks, but that customs guy knew his Canuckistan prices, if I could get away from the table without paying $100 for breakfast, I’d be lucky.

(to be continued…)
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:05 AM   #199
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I thought all canadians were chipper,ehh.

That was a great little cabin you stayed in.We have a company behind us that build those and also modular cabins to 5000sqft.One day,I will own some lage acreage with a hand built cabin.

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Old 07-11-2013, 03:23 PM   #200
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That was a great little cabin you stayed in...
only if you're satisfied with crude, ok for a one night rental, but not something i would purchase.

buildings of this type can be done much better.
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:39 PM   #201
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Johnsons Cafe, motel, cabins, and campground are up the hill on the right just past Park Cafe.
The west side cabins along lower St Mary turn left just past Park Cafe go past the big KOA. The road goes all the way to Many Glacier road.


Our government gave the Tribe 2 million bucks to develop Chewing Blackbones. There is never any management there and they are rarely open. When it is open you won't sleep a wink it's a drunkfest.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:02 PM   #202
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Johnsons Cafe, motel, cabins, and campground are up the hill on the right just past Park Cafe.
now i remember Johnson's, they had an "open" sign at the entrance, but i didn't go up the hill.

didn't look like $2mil was spent at Blackbones, maybe they drank up what was left over. glad i know not to stop there.
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:15 PM   #203
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the operation in the photo was interesting because it was textbook vertical integration at a single facility.

some of the big operations i saw in Canada had a million bushel or more on site grain storage, and were adding more. huge operations.


hey cowboy, what's the story behind the 5 strand sawbuck fencing?
Vertically integrated makes me think it might be colony operation. More available labor to pick up the extra percent gains.

Not 100% sure, but I don't think they need to dig post holes, but maybe it is a hold over from doing lodge pole fences that way. We never did that in the area I grew up at. We did 3 wire steel with willow staves and 6" 3 post cornersets.

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Old 07-11-2013, 09:11 PM   #204
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What's the best route from Missoula to Red Lodge? Without adding too many miles? Looking at going through Helena/Bozeman at this point- We're doing Going to the Sun, Lolo Pass (just to the ID border) and Beartooth on consecutive days. Heaven!
See if this link will work. Its the first time I tried to share google maps.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...72758,8.453979



Here is a link to the time I took that Swingley Road. http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198071

Oh yeah, save yourself and do NOT take 93 from Kali to Missoula, take 83 instead. Hwy 93 is like driving down I-25 in Denver ... during rush hour.


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Old 07-11-2013, 09:35 PM   #205
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only if you're satisfied with crude, ok for a one night rental, but not something i would purchase.

buildings of this type can be done much better.
Sorry to hear that.Looks better than it is.The ones built here are made to last and live in if need be.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:16 PM   #206
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See if this link will work. Its the first time I tried to share google maps.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...72758,8.453979



Here is a link to the time I took that Swingley Road. http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198071

Oh yeah, save yourself and do NOT take 93 from Kali to Missoula, take 83 instead. Hwy 93 is like driving down I-25 in Denver ... during rush hour.


David

Thanks for the tips!
I know the Kalispel area- spent a summer in Bigfork back in 1987. It will be interesting to see how it changed- probably come down 35, although it can be pretty slow, too!
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Agent: “Why are you trying to enter Canada on a motorcycle that you don’t own?”
JD: “Mr. Monroney asked me to deliver his motorcycle to Anchorage.”, and at that point his eyes rolled back so far, heck, I could see hair roots, and I knew he thought he’d caught himself a winner, the first of the day. Maybe, just maybe, he didn’t believe me.
Agent: “Anchorage, why is that?”
JD: “Mr. Monroney had a schedule conflict and had to cancel a week of vacation.”
Agent: “Explain Anchorage.”
JD: “He’s meeting another rider there, so the bike still had to get to Alaska.”
Agent: “He authorized you to ride this motorcycle?”
JD: “Yes, he did, here’s the authorization form and insurance certificate.”
Agent: “You would not be entering Canada if this form had not been notarized.”
JD: “That’s what I told Mr. Monroney.”
Agent: “How many days will you be in Canada?”
JD: “Five.”
Agent: “What is the amount of currency you have on your person?”
JD: “$1000.”
Agent: “What other means of payment are you carrying?”
JD: “Credit cards.”
Agent: “More than one?”
JD: “Yes.”
Agent: “Welcome to Canada.”
JD: “Thanks, can I get my passport stamped?”
Agent: “No.”, and he abruptly walked away, I must have caused him to miss his favorite morning segment on CBC, possibly that gigantic lump of Red River he’d consumed for breakfast wasn’t riding quite right…or he was pissed about the Stanley Cup being locked up below 49 again, that malady was already noted several times in the Canadian health system under the heading “DIMENTIA”.

I expected having to explain the bike, but I’d never been asked a cocky doody currency question in all my years of border crossings, hey, I was just visiting, not taking up residency in Canuckistan, after all, I heard they get snow.

A burden had been lifted, at least for five days, I still had to get the bike into Alaska. At least I wouldn’t have to call Mike with some bad news today, the bike was officially across the border. I was hungry as heck, breakfast was in Pincher Creek, a ways up the Cowboy Trail. I had a thousand bucks, but that customs guy knew his Canuckistan prices, if I could get away from the table without paying $100 for breakfast, I’d be lucky.

(to be continued…)
Whew! (I was never worried...)(maybe I should've been!)
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:57 AM   #208
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Thanks for the tips!
I know the Kalispel area- spent a summer in Bigfork back in 1987. It will be interesting to see how it changed- probably come down 35, although it can be pretty slow, too!
26 years ago, Yeah, its changed a little. 93 is four lane most of the way. And south of Missoula to Hamilton IIRC.
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Old 07-12-2013, 04:16 AM   #209
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Not 100% sure, but I don't think they need to dig post holes,
David
i don't think they WANT to dig post holes, but there may be some other reason.

now you'll have to circulate the question around your rancher network, the flatlanders need to know.
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Oh yeah, save yourself and do NOT take 93 from Kali to Missoula, take 83 instead. Hwy 93 is like driving down I-25 in Denver ... during rush hour.


David
link works, good road selection.

83 can have bumper to bumper traffic too, tough to pass on that road.
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