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Old 06-07-2013, 09:27 AM   #1
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you jokers! you had me goin

Thinking you can break a bead with the sidestand
I need to get my Heidenau off so I can put on my new Karoo3. Tried tire irons to break the bead

put the wheel on the ground and leaned the 950 over as far as I could with the foot on the edge of the rubber Entire weight minus what the front wheel was bearing was on the bead.

5' long 1/2 x 3 flat stock under the bumper of the truck pushing on a 1' pry bar. Bent the bar, Lifted the front of the truck a few times before shooting the pry bar out. Several times.

C'mon this is ridiculous. I put the K60 on last year after taking almost 45 minutes to break the bead.



venting. but the bead still isn't broke.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:38 AM   #2
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Did you let the air out of the tire first?
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:40 AM   #3
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Try deflating the tire first
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:41 AM   #4
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Boat.man lol
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:41 AM   #5
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Did you let the air out of the tire first?
dam, beat me to it.

But I am surprised it did not work. Maybe the ground was really soft?
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:47 AM   #6
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Thinking you can break a bead with the sidestand
I need to get my Heidenau off so I can put on my new Karoo3. Tried tire irons to break the bead

put the wheel on the ground and leaned the 950 over as far as I could with the foot on the edge of the rubber Entire weight minus what the front wheel was bearing was on the bead.

5' long 1/2 x 3 flat stock under the bumper of the truck pushing on a 1' pry bar. Bent the bar, Lifted the front of the truck a few times before shooting the pry bar out. Several times.

C'mon this is ridiculous. I put the K60 on last year after taking almost 45 minutes to break the bead.



venting. but the bead still isn't broke.
yeah I hear ya. Tried the ol' side stand bead breaking technique on my previous GS and Tourance tires that were still relatively new. no go. One thing that you might find helpful (if you haven't tried it already) is giving it a go with the side stand, rotate the tire a bit, give it another go.. etc. all the way around the tire. Eventually it'll work it's way around the bead enough that it'll finally give in. Might take a lap or two in my experience. Also, silicon spray in the bead area never hurts too...

good luck
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:00 AM   #7
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Harbor Freight Bead Breaker - $20

http://www.harborfreight.com/motorcy...ker-98875.html

I have broke loose old tires on restore projects where the rubber was bonded to the rim with this.

Why not make it easy when changing the tires at home?
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:01 AM   #8
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Did you let the air out of the tire first?
Definition of a true bastid luv it.

On a sensible note without sound old here chuck the wheel complete either in the sun or mums oven total deflated.

Softening these babies even on the wheel makes a HUGE difference.

Short or that, disc grinder, cutting blade and a new tube that you have been talking about for years
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:34 AM   #9
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Never had a problem using the sidestand, well using the light XR400 on some hard tires it has needed to pretty much balance the entire weight of the bike on the sidestand and move it around a few times.

Never needed to use the 950 to do it yet.

Here is the solution 25 ton press with a sturdy bent press and a ratchet strap to stop it slipping:



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Old 06-07-2013, 10:44 AM   #10
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What year is your bike? I have heard that the early ones like mine have a bigger safety bead.

I haven't been able to make the sidestand trick work either. The only way I have been able to break the rear wheel bead on this bike is to put the tire in a bench vise.

Bench vises don't pack very well, so I converted the rear wheel to tubeless in hopes I can save my bead-breaking for home.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:54 AM   #11
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I have an '04 and I have a hell of a time breaking the bead. I use my DRZ400 side stand and lift the ass end of the bike up many times before it finally breaks. I might try out that HF bead breaker...
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:58 AM   #12
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dam, beat me to it.

But I am surprised it did not work. Maybe the ground was really soft?
ah. hah.


Air was out, concrete driveway was the base for the effort.

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What year is your bike? I have heard that the early ones like mine have a bigger safety bead.

I haven't been able to make the sidestand trick work either. The only way I have been able to break the rear wheel bead on this bike is to put the tire in a bench vise.

Bench vises don't pack very well, so I converted the rear wheel to tubeless in hopes I can save my bead-breaking for home.

2004, so it probably is the safety bead. I also had a big clamp compressed as much as I could and it would not come off the bead.
Upcoming trip to Colorado. If I get a flat it's either going to come off the bead riding it flat, or it's going off a cliff.
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:02 AM   #13
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I converted the rear wheel to tubeless in hopes I can save my bead-breaking for home.
I'd like to talk to you about this at Hells Canyon later this month.
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:06 AM   #14
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I had a heck of a time getting a K60 off my 950 rear wheel...
I eventually took a Dremel and cut the bead off.

No more K60s for me.

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Old 06-07-2013, 11:08 AM   #15
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These are the go http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0519/ light enough to travel with and will break the bead easily. The side or center stands also work - just make sure that you are nice and close to the rim.
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