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Old 06-11-2013, 11:26 AM   #1
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Expected Facet pump life?

My Facet 40105 failed this morning. It just clicks once rather than buzzing, and doesn't pump much. Luckily I had a 40104 on the shelf so I swapped them over and am back on the road.

The 40105 has been on my bike for 6 years, probably done 50,000 miles in that time, with some pretty muddy and rough off road use.

Is this a reasonable life time for the Facet? Given the cost, I'm not annoyed about having to replace it, but I'm wondering when to consider replacing it again to avoid being stranded. In 5 years time?
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:42 AM   #2
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My Facet 40105 failed this morning. It just clicks once rather than buzzing, and doesn't pump much. Luckily I had a 40104 on the shelf so I swapped them over and am back on the road.

The 40105 has been on my bike for 6 years, probably done 50,000 miles in that time, with some pretty muddy and rough off road use.

Is this a reasonable life time for the Facet? Given the cost, I'm not annoyed about having to replace it, but I'm wondering when to consider replacing it again to avoid being stranded. In 5 years time?
My first Facet 40171 died after just some 20,000 km but the second has kept working well for over 50,000 km. I bring a spare Facet and a spare clutch slave with me on longer adventures.
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:16 PM   #3
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Is it me?

What is the point in fitting a Facet?

IME/O if you can break down at any time and you need to carry a spare, why not just carry a spare stock pump. That's what I do.

My original points were bur'nt out (but still working) at 22,000 miles, put in replacement points, now done 37,000 miles, checked them last week and they look like new still.

Just really don't see the point or need of the Facet, far to many failures/running problems to consider it a proper upgrade.
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:30 PM   #4
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I agree after DrBean's upgrade became available

But back then, the facet was a breakthrough finding by cpmodem. Needs to be accompanied by a filter.
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Old 06-11-2013, 05:33 PM   #5
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Points aren't the only known weakness on a stocker either. I'm at about 40k on my Facet, a spare (if I were to carry one) is half the size of stock as well.
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Old 06-11-2013, 07:02 PM   #6
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My first Facet 40171 died after just some 20,000 km but the second has kept working well for over 50,000 km. I bring a spare Facet and a spare clutch slave with me on longer adventures.
Yeah same here, and trust me, I had to use them a few times...
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:08 AM   #7
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Is it me?

What is the point in fitting a Facet?

IME/O if you can break down at any time and you need to carry a spare, why not just carry a spare stock pump. That's what I do.

My original points were bur'nt out (but still working) at 22,000 miles, put in replacement points, now done 37,000 miles, checked them last week and they look like new still.

Just really don't see the point or need of the Facet, far to many failures/running problems to consider it a proper upgrade.

I'm pretty much on the same page. Two 950's one failure in 60k miles. The failure was my SE with 1100 miles, wasn't the points. Got it changes under warranty (that was a clusterf*ck) and it's been flawless since. I just checked the points a couple weeks ago with 18k miles and they look like new.

Changed the points on the Adv around 35k miles. They were starting to wear crooked so I replaced them.

I've seen a few friends screwing around with the Facet and vacuum pulse pumps and in the end going back to the stocker.

Yup there are issues that may arise but that is pretty much true with any mechanical part/device.

Gefr is correct though,,, the Facet came about back when the points replacement didn't seem to be an option.
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:09 AM   #8
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Fair points, but the Facet is sealed, whereas the stock pump is not.

My original pump died through water ingress, and the Facet was a much cheaper replacement - about half the price of the stock item.
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