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Old 06-12-2013, 11:39 AM   #16
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I had purchased one of the 1st Yamaha FJR1300s to come into the US - this was a huge problem on those bikes. It got to the point the gas would boil in the tank. Living in SC this might be a deal breaker for me - I better slow down on selling other bikes until KTM solves this.

Getting rid of the CAT would probably solve it!
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:37 PM   #17
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Thanks for writing. Expect more contributions from other users.
KTM has not yet prepared a solution to the problem here in europe. Someone wrote that it is preparing but it is not a sure thing.
In reality the Ceramic coating of the pipes inside and out will eliminate a lot of this issue (it did for me, measurably so).

The Cats are a totally different issue, but they too are giant heat sinks.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:41 PM   #18
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In my opininion the main heat is not generated from the headers, but the rear cylinder.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:44 PM   #19
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And I don't believe that KTM is thinking on this problem. 990 had the same problem and they have never tried to find a remedy, other than selling high priced carbon parts from their powerparts range.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:11 PM   #20
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In my opininion the main heat is not generated from the headers, but the rear cylinder.
yes the bike got more heat from engine than the pipes.
i take all the seat out and look underneat MAN OMG , there is nothing inbetween the seat and the cylinder head just a few cables. this is a desing fault or they will bring a part thats why they didnt put anything.

these days the motorcycle companies all do it :)

why the side stand is so bad on such a good bike will involve off road.
Answers is they want to sell extention
why didnt they put a better seat ?
answer is they will sell powerparts more
why the heat is there and is this ktm stupid ?
answer is definetly NO . this is a game !
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:49 PM   #21
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yes the bike got more heat from engine than the pipes.
i take all the seat out and look underneat MAN OMG , there is nothing inbetween the seat and the cylinder head just a few cables. this is a desing fault or they will bring a part thats why they didnt put anything.

these days the motorcycle companies all do it :)

why the side stand is so bad on such a good bike will involve off road.
Answers is they want to sell extention
why didnt they put a better seat ?
answer is they will sell powerparts more
why the heat is there and is this ktm stupid ?
answer is definetly NO . this is a game !

unless you work for KTM i find it hard to believe you have the answers (those you quoted above)
what is the game regarding the heat? and why any company to play such game?
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:52 PM   #22
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why the side stand is so bad on such a good bike will involve off road.
Answers is they want to sell extention!
Unfortunately they don't sell relocation brackets...

And yes, when I tested it I would have swear the heat was coming from the engine, not the headers.
I also felt the heat was mainly coming from the left side, does it make any sense?
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:05 PM   #23
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why the side stand is so bad on such a good bike will involve off road.
Answers is they want to sell extention
why didnt they put a better seat ?
answer is they will sell powerparts more
why the heat is there and is this ktm stupid ?
answer is definetly NO . this is a game !
ah the honeymoon is wearing off
maybe tape up the under seat pan with heat shield tape

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Old 06-13-2013, 03:40 AM   #24
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unless you work for KTM i find it hard to believe you have the answers (those you quoted above)
what is the game regarding the heat? and why any company to play such game?
Not only ktm all other companies playing the same stupid thing.

I had a 2012 Kawasaki ZZR 1400, and Christ the exhaust is so big ,it was looking like a bazooka! Some one with normal brain would design anything as ugly as that ,the idea is get you spend money and buy after market exhaust simple is that. Ktm, Honda, Kawasaki ,bMw all fuckerss the same may be one of the factory I would say don't do this could be Ducati ,MV Agusta..
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Old 06-13-2013, 05:05 AM   #25
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Need to locate something between the engine and frame. After the heat moves up through the seat, it's not possible to avoid using a foil or paper. Those foils they collect the heat, there is not much space to reflect the heat
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Old 06-13-2013, 05:16 AM   #26
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The Buell Ulysses had this problem and there was a company that made heat shield blankets that went underneath the seat , made a huge difference.
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:32 AM   #27
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More motorcycle heat shield products:

http://www.heatshieldproducts.com/pr...t-shield/47/34

Try this under your seat:
http://www.heatshieldproducts.com/pr...t-shield/50/45

INSULATION TYPE: HEAT SHIELD BARRIER, REFLECTS HEAT AWAY
USES: HOOD HEAT SHIELD, FLOORBOARD HEAT SHIELD, FIREWALL HEAT SHIELD, CATALYTIC CONVERTER HEAT SHIELD, MUFFLER HEAT SHIELD, AIR BOX HEATSHIELD, GENSET EXHAUST HEAT SHIELD, DPF HEAT SHIELD

I had a similar heat issue with the right upswept exhaust on my 950SE . . . A sheepskin seat cover helped on the seat. I had to relocate the voltage regulator (it would cook from the rear cylinder and header heat). I added a guard under the battery housing to deflect some of the heat. I still had to hold my right leg out when stopped or in slow traffic . . . Which worked for me.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:43 AM   #28
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More motorcycle heat shield products:

http://www.heatshieldproducts.com/pr...t-shield/47/34

Try this under your seat:
http://www.heatshieldproducts.com/pr...t-shield/50/45

INSULATION TYPE: HEAT SHIELD BARRIER, REFLECTS HEAT AWAY
USES: HOOD HEAT SHIELD, FLOORBOARD HEAT SHIELD, FIREWALL HEAT SHIELD, CATALYTIC CONVERTER HEAT SHIELD, MUFFLER HEAT SHIELD, AIR BOX HEATSHIELD, GENSET EXHAUST HEAT SHIELD, DPF HEAT SHIELD

I had a similar heat issue with the right upswept exhaust on my 950SE . . . A sheepskin seat cover helped on the seat. I had to relocate the voltage regulator (it would cook from the rear cylinder and header heat). I added a guard under the battery housing to deflect some of the heat. I still had to hold my right leg out when stopped or in slow traffic . . . Which worked for me.
Maybe some of this product under the seat and in both sides pinted with black spray or near the cylinder
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:07 AM   #29
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Something like this, both sides and under the seat.

Is not beautiful... but its practice. Maybe with some stickers it looks better

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Old 06-13-2013, 08:47 AM   #30
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Something like this, both sides and under the seat.

Is not beautiful... but its practice. Maybe with some stickers it looks better

I don't mind that look its rather good if the heat problem will disappear
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