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Old 06-11-2013, 09:47 PM   #1
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KTM EXC Oil Level/Change??

hi. i just have a general enquiry. i did around 10-12 hours of riding since a previous oil change and checked the oil level in the small glass and i couldn't see any oil showing in it. so i decided to drain the oil and do an oil change and measure/calculate how much oil in total was drained out of the bike and it was 770ml that was left in the bike from when i drained it. The bike takes 1.2 litres in total. I know oil degrades with the heat and over time but i didn't think that much over 2-3 rides. i topped up straight after i got home from my last ride as soon as i noticed the lack of oil level in the glass, but im wondering, would that have done any damage? and what level is it meant to or able to go down to before problems start persisting with the bike/engine(what is a safe level amount)?? i was told by other KTM owners that as long as it's got more then half the capacity the bike takes in total of oil when it's drained, it should be alright but just want to check and confirm. any help/advice is greatly appreciated, thanks. Also, the bike has had a fresh top and bottom end done about 60 hours ago.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:50 PM   #2
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what year? CC's', etc..

Btw- the 530's burned oil a bit, but i doubt you did any damage, unless you were redlining it like a redneck with a passion for Harley noise.

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Old 06-11-2013, 09:51 PM   #3
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what year? CC's', etc..

Btw- the 530's burned oil a bit,

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oh sorry. KTM 450 EXC 2004
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:55 PM   #4
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Top end include new valve guides and seals? or just a ring job.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:56 PM   #5
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nah complete top end including valves, seals, gaskets, rings, piston, etc + complete new bottom end including bearings, conrod, etc.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:57 PM   #6
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How's the plug look? with a carb'd bike it can be tough to tell whether it's burning rich or oil is getting in..

Also take a look at the end of the exhaust- is it a bit oily?
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checked the plug, it is a nice crispy brown colour not too rich and not too lean and nothing from the end of the exhaust
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nah complete top end including valves, seals, gaskets, rings, piston, etc + complete new bottom end including bearings, conrod, etc.

Sounds a bit like ring's to me. I know the "break in" procedure is to take it easy, but I've had better luck with about 3 heat cycles and then do a few hot lap's to seat the ring's.

Edit- that's just me...but it seems to work.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:01 PM   #9
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So 2-3 rides between oil changes- how long and terrain?
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Oh, and if I run low on oil during a ride, I'll change the filter just in case.
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1st 2 rides were 4 hours long and the last ride was 3 hours long. terrain was mainly fire trails & single trails.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:07 PM   #12
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Sounds like normal oil loss for an older KTM, regardless of the rebuild.

Fill 'er up after about 4-5 hour's of run time, and grip it and rip it!!

But that's just my opinion...there may be other's who chime in later. Their opinion's are just as valid.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:09 PM   #13
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ok cool. thanks for the help mate. ill definitely be keeping an eye on the oil levels and taking other people's advice/opinions into consideration if they chime in later :)
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:09 PM   #14
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BTW- I've had 525's, 530, a couple of 950's and a '12 500 and they all consumed a bit of oil.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:12 PM   #15
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yeah it makes sense for it to do that. i was just mainly concerned about weather i rode it with not enough oil in it or not
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