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Old 06-21-2013, 12:59 PM   #1
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2 Stroke touring?

Are there any 2 strokes worthy of long distance riding that can be sourced in the USA?

Really starting to like these engines.
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Old 06-21-2013, 01:05 PM   #2
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The best would be the Suzuki GT750. Big enough to do anything, water cooled. That would be my #1 choice.

Just have to find one :)
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:00 PM   #3
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Water Buffalo!

How many times I cursed that behemoth when I worked in a shop and had to push it in and out of the shop for months.

Keen on something a little lighter though like a RD400, possibly smaller.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:45 AM   #4
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I'd trust any of the RDs from 200cc up if they are fresh.
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Old 06-22-2013, 10:20 AM   #5
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A good running Waterbuffalo will last nearly forever, just ask Iron Butt Allen.


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Old 06-22-2013, 11:35 AM   #6
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Are there any 2 strokes worthy of long distance riding that can be sourced in the USA?

Really starting to like these engines.
Though known as a performance bike (at least in it's day), the RD350/400s are good highway bikes; virtually no engine vibration at speed, adequate 65-85mph passing power, good riding position, and not overly-sensitive to crosswinds. The bike's good overall manners - handling, brakes, throttle response - help on touring use, not just on the back road twisties. They are just well-engineered bikes. Biggest drawback is you only have around 100 miles before you have to start looking for gas. The RZ350 has a bigger tank (if memory serves), and more top-end passing power; did a 400 mile camping trip on one of those, riding position was fine over that distance.

I used to 'commute' on an aircooled RD350, back & forth to Michigan's UP from Boston, through Canada. In those days, it was considered a middleweight.

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Old 06-22-2013, 06:03 PM   #7
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The best would be the Suzuki GT750. Big enough to do anything, water cooled. That would be my #1 choice.

Just have to find one :)
I wholeheartedly agree. My GT750 was one of the best bikes I ever owned, and great for long distance. There is nothing wrong with the GT550 and GT380, either. Just gotta find one.
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:35 AM   #8
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Depends on your definition of "touring". For interstate highways I'd go with the Suzuki 500 Titan. Basically 2/3 of a Water Buffalo with plenty of power for anything.

If you can stick to 2 lanes and travel lighter then any of the smaller Yamaha's or Suzuki's would work with the advantage of being more fun and getting a bit better gas mileage. They both made bikes in the 200-400 cc range that would keep up with backroad traffic and were very reliable.

I commuted 30 miles round trip to school on a Kawasaki 125 back in the 70's. It had a top speed of around 70 and it would cruise along at 55-60 mph with no problems.
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Old 06-23-2013, 05:07 AM   #9
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Depends on the rider too, if your 6'4" like me the GT750 is the only way to go. I restored a nice GT380 but it was tiny for me to ride and the RD's would be the same, they were just small bikes back then. My 750 cruises at 75MPH all day long with about 130 miles range before hitting reserve, the oil tank holds enough for 1000 miles. A Suzuki T-500 is a larger bike and has enough power but they vibrate your feet numb. Watercooling makes the GT750 nice and quiet, no blender full of marbles sounds from it like air cooled motors. The motors have rubber mounting points and the vibration is not noticeable.
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:54 AM   #10
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I had a '77 GT500. I don't think it vibrated any more than any of my RDs.
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Old 06-24-2013, 06:06 PM   #11
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Or a 100cc Hodaka

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Old 06-25-2013, 03:27 AM   #12
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Second the vote for Suzuki T500/GT500.

I got far better gas mileage on the 500s than on my T250 - working a lot less hard with my 200lb weight and touring gear. Typically 56 miles per Imperial gallon (ie 70 miles per US gallon) at +/- 60-70mph touring on the T500.

The T500's much, much more comfortable to tour on than my RD350 and RD400 Yamahas were, but not so much fun on backroads or the racetrack.

I had a 1970 T250, 1971 T500, 1974 RD350, 1976 GT500, and 1978 RD400, all bought new and toured on back in the day. I did 400 mile days (800 mile weekends) regularly then on these, still have an RD400. And an MZ ETZ250 that I now tour, too.
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:39 AM   #13
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I am open to smaller bikes too. In fact, I used to go for the biggest, tallest, heaviest bikes just to test the mettle. Now I like small, lightweight, high fun quotient rides.

Definitely want oil injection!
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:37 AM   #14
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I put my 76 Buffalo on a 125lb diet. I will have to take some pics next time I have it loaded up for a trip. The Buffalo and I have ridden over 5000 trouble free miles in the last 8 months. It is very smooth, but with the Jemco chambers ear plugs are recommended.



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I put my 76 Buffalo on a 125lb diet. I will have to take some pics next time I have it loaded up for a trip. The Buffalo and I have ridden over 5000 trouble free miles in the last 8 months. It is very smooth, but with the Jemco chambers ear plugs are recommended.



Sweet looking Buff! Must be a bit of a rocket too.
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