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Old 06-22-2009, 11:20 AM   #1
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Honest Review of TKC-80's

Okay, so I read all of the hype and put the TKC's on my BMW F800GS and ran them. I'm getting ready for TAT and took the frickin tires right off.

I burned through this set of tires in about 600 miles and it appears to have weather cracks around the base of the knobbies on the rear tire. Tires are 3 months old.

The tires absolutely suck in mud and on blacktop when it is wet. I will not be putting another set of them on my bike. They grip fine on hard packed dirt, don't have a large enough knobby for silt or sand, and seem good on pavement.

Who ever says these tires are great doesn't twist very hard and probably trolls along at about 20 miles an hour. If you ride your bike hard stay away from these things.

I have been meaning to post about this, but just remembered.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:29 AM   #2
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Any thoughts on the next set of tires for the F8GS?
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:44 AM   #3
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Any thoughts on the next set of tires for the F8GS?
I just put a set of Karoo T's on it. It flat out sucks we have such a limited set of tires to choose from. I will let ya know how these tires hold up after TAT. I leave on friday.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:53 AM   #4
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Not a fan of the TKC's either. On my KTM I can burn through a rear easily in 700 to 1000 miles. If I really try and take it easy on the tire, I can get about 1500 out of it. If I am full on thrashing it, its toasted in 500 miles. Besides that, the TKC doesnt do anything very well.

So far the longest lasting knobby on the big KTM has been the 908 RR. I can get almost 2000 miles out of a rear. If I take it easy, real easy it will almost last 3000 miles until the center knobs are gone.

the Michelin Desert is my favorite rear tire on the big bike, but they dont last long, maybe 1000 miles. However they do have good road manners for a knobby and off road they hook up better than the 908.

Maybe consider a wheel for your GS that will give you some more tire choices, it might be money well spent.

Of course YMMV

Disclaimer: I ride mostly off road or jeep two track so I tend to be pretty hard on tires, thats why they dont last very long for me, just like dirt bike tires.

Edit: Man just saw that you have quite a few bikes. Nice! That Aprilla must be just insane to ride.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:56 AM   #5
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I just put a set of Karoo T's on it. It flat out sucks we have such a limited set of tires to choose from. I will let ya know how these tires hold up after TAT. I leave on friday.
If you think TKC wear out quick, you will really find the Karoo's disappointing. They are also worse on slab rides, but better in the dirt.

Nobody has found the "perfect" tire for on and off road. The best you can hope for is to find the lesser of all evils for your GS.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:57 AM   #6
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I just put a set of Karoo T's on it. It flat out sucks we have such a limited set of tires to choose from. I will let ya know how these tires hold up after TAT. I leave on friday.
If you thought the TKCs were soft, just count the hours before the Karoos melt like movie theatre popcorn butter.
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:15 PM   #7
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Okay, so I read all of the hype and put the TKC's on my BMW F800GS and ran them. I'm getting ready for TAT and took the frickin tires right off.

I burned through this set of tires in about 600 miles and it appears to have weather cracks around the base of the knobbies on the rear tire. Tires are 3 months old.

The tires absolutely suck in mud and on blacktop when it is wet. I will not be putting another set of them on my bike. They grip fine on hard packed dirt, don't have a large enough knobby for silt or sand, and seem good on pavement.

Who ever says these tires are great doesn't twist very hard and probably trolls along at about 20 miles an hour. If you ride your bike hard stay away from these things.

I have been meaning to post about this, but just remembered.
Wow. How do you really feel?

My experiences have been the exact opposite. I get at least 5000 miles on a rear TKC 80, and 5000-10,000 on the front tire. I used TKCs from Panama to Tierra del Fuego, on all kinds of roads and rumors of roads, and they never failed me. I had a 1/4 inch bolt through the rear and it didn't lose an ounce of air. I plugged it and rode it another 3000 miles. I have no problem with cornering- I'll drag a foot peg before I run out of tire. I like them on wet, dry, smooth, rough- everything from pavement to sand, stones, mud. I run with a tube in the front tire, and tubeless in the rear. I have no particular reason for doing this- it's just what I do.

I've also used metzlers and michelins. The anakees wore as fast as the TKCs but without the off-road capabilite. The metzlers last an awful long time but they're for shite in the shit. For mostly road and easy dirt/gravel, I like the metzler rear/tkc front. I'm planning on part of the TAT this summer, and I'll stick to the TKCs, front and rear.
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Old 06-22-2009, 03:41 PM   #8
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I once heard someone say:

"TKC's start their life as a half-worn knobby, and then it's all downhill from there."

Oh wait. That was me.
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Old 06-22-2009, 03:57 PM   #9
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So, what could explain bananman's wildy varying experience from iphorde's?? Surely more throttle can't explain it all....
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:15 PM   #10
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Throttle and terrain is my guess. It doesnt take much hooliganism to spin the knobs off a tire in off road (not dirt road) conditions.
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:19 PM   #11
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If you thought the TKCs were soft, just count the hours before the Karoos melt like movie theatre popcorn butter.

I rolled the Karoo T's across the floor to load them in the truck to go get them mounted... lost 3mm of tread.

I usually get 6-7k out of a front TKC for my GS. I barely got 3k out of a front Karoo T. Glad I didn't use the rear... I hear they run out faster than the TKC.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:55 PM   #12
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So, what could explain bananman's wildy varying experience from iphorde's?? Surely more throttle can't explain it all....
I have the same experience as bananman, the TKC's have worked really well for me for in Alaska. This includes 60-80 mph all day highway runs and dirt road runs at stoopid speeds. I usually get about 4500-5000 miles from a rear and 7000-8000 from a front.

I guess some folks could tear up an anvil and bitch about it...
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:42 PM   #13
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TKC's are ok, but they are what they are. They're just like a BMW GS. They are expensive, but only middling-good at everything. They truly suck when conditions get demanding (on road, off-road, weather, mileage, whatever).

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Old 06-22-2009, 08:09 PM   #14
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I guess some folks could tear up an anvil and bitch about it...
Well, maybe true. I tear shit up and accept it. On dirt bikes, its a big deal to get even 1000 miles out of a very hard compound rear tire and that's being nice to it.

FWIW, with a 500 lb. 100 hp "dirt" bike, I'm happy to get even 500 miles out of a rear tire. But, some do better than others. The TKC doesnt do anything well and it doesnt last very long. There are much better tires for the on/off road task IMO.

For street and dirt, I'll take a Michelin Desert over a TKC any day of the week. But, it will only last 1000 miles as well. Pick your poison.
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Old 06-22-2009, 08:27 PM   #15
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Well, maybe true. I tear shit up and accept it. On dirt bikes, its a big deal to get even 1000 miles out of a very hard compound rear tire and that's being nice to it.

FWIW, with a 500 lb. 100 hp "dirt" bike, I'm happy to get even 500 miles out of a rear tire. But, some do better than others. The TKC doesnt do anything well and it doesnt last very long. There are much better tires for the on/off road task IMO.

For street and dirt, I'll take a Michelin Desert over a TKC any day of the week. But, it will only last 1000 miles as well. Pick your poison.
I'm not hard on my tires and that prolly why TKC's work well for me on my 1150.

I do eat tires on my DRZ but that's mostly due to the sharp rocks we have on the trails here in Kodiak.

I guess it's the price we pay for the games we play.
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