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Old 06-22-2013, 07:22 AM   #1
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El Dorado county Sheriff runs off greenies?

It was rumored the El Dorado county sheriff ran off the "green sector " local authorities who regulate and monitor forest activity in the county. This as I was told was possibly the FS, F&G, park service employees, sierra clubbers etc. Word is the Sheriff said they were unjustifiably taking it upon themselves with illegal trail closures and running the public off the public lands for no legitimate reason.
Anyone else here of this?
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:19 AM   #2
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Yes I just heard about this yesterday, The sheriff has the right to keep the USFS rangers out of his county, if he feels the rangers are over stepping there authority.
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:44 AM   #3
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Some info here:
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/...rcement-power/

And here:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=781913

There has been a Forest Service officer running roughshod over 4x4 users, campers and others for sometime and despite numerous complaints, they refused to do anything.
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:52 AM   #4
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Also heard this...

Yep, Sherriff was tired of dealing with the complaints. I believe I heard it was effective first of July. I suppose a lot could happen between now and then but it looks like USFS will not be enforcing the law in Eldorado County for now at least.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:03 AM   #5
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This looks like more liberal Nazi democrat federal "employees " making up laws. Three cheers for the sheriff and the rule of law in a republic.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:00 AM   #7
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There has been a growing push to place ALL law enforcement under the supervision of County Sheriffs for just this reason. The Sheriff is an elected position, and therefore accountable to the local people.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:16 AM   #9
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These guys aren't confined to California, just ask some of the Cat Herders back East about "Action Jackson" roaming around the GWNF in his Tahoe writing tickets for BS offenses
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This looks like more liberal Nazi democrat federal "employees " making up laws. Three cheers for the sheriff and the rule of law in a republic.
I agree,the amount of paperwork/time/money spent on regulating forests by officials who wouldnt know a trail or dirt road if it bit em on the ass is ridiculous.

A forest lasts millions of years,a trail lasts 20 to 30 years and is buried and abandoned and forgotten,its hard to find a trail after 3 years of dis-use.
Yet the movement to "save it for the next generation" is huge.
What if they want to ride dirtbikes too?

I hope the movement of chuck the chuckleheads out of a forest continues,USFS is under the impression they own these woods and roads.
We pay their salaries and retirements,we own the forests they attempt to manage.

Yet they continue to close em down. recreation is an economic reality,shutting it down makes no sense.
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:05 PM   #11
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I saw this in a local paper and did some research here in Northern California.
It seems there has been one "certain" ranger that enjoyed hassling 4 wheelers and quad riders on and around the Rubicon trail. To the point where cracked taillights were enough to get you stopped, and if you answered wrong on the attitude test, the cuffs went on and threats of "going to jail" ensued.

Said Ranger and the USFS are named in several lawsuits for excessive force, jurisdiction issues, probable cause search issues, etc.

This one will be interesting to watch what the Feds do.
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:10 PM   #12
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It's sad really that the greenies think dirtbike riding destroys the forest. If all of the forests were opened up, the amount of use per acre would go way down and the direct impact, aka tires tracks, would be greatly reduced. Of course it looks bad when you fence everyone in to one small area.
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:05 AM   #13
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It's sad really that the greenies think dirtbike riding destroys the forest. If all of the forests were opened up, the amount of use per acre would go way down and the direct impact, aka tires tracks, would be greatly reduced. Of course it looks bad when you fence everyone in to one small area.
the greens have no limits,they even go after the cows,fencing off remote meadows that have been open for decades in the forest,its ashame.
nobody should be excluded from there right to enjoy public land.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:12 AM   #14
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I saw this in a local paper and did some research here in Northern California.
It seems there has been one "certain" ranger that enjoyed hassling 4 wheelers and quad riders on and around the Rubicon trail. To the point where cracked taillights were enough to get you stopped, and if you answered wrong on the attitude test, the cuffs went on and threats of "going to jail" ensued.

Said Ranger and the USFS are named in several lawsuits for excessive force, jurisdiction issues, probable cause search issues, etc.

This one will be interesting to watch what the Feds do.
Certain USFS rangers have taken on an authority roll well out of bounds of what they were ordained to do. They figure they work for the govt so their power is endless.
Its up to the public to tamp them firmly down where they belong.

Their retirement,their salary,their entire job is owned by the taxpayer and they are employees of us.

Unless some of us take a stand they will continue their stomping of civil rights. The Sierra Club will win as they a$$ume they will.

It starts locally.
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