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Old 07-27-2013, 05:53 PM   #91
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GrizzLee, I am a father of three. It is our responsibility to raise our children and prepare them to live their lives. This alone carries risk. ....
You prepared your son and yourself quite well. Accidents do happen,such is life.

I hope that one day I will be able to experience a similar adventure with at least one of my children.

Ride safe.
I hope you can have adventures with your kids. These trips have been among the most rewarding things I've done in my life. I've no regrets... Just some guilt that maybe I could have done more. You are correct. It's a rewards vs risk equation. Kids have to experience it to understand it. I am glad my son is ok and not soured from the whole ordeal. He has been researching speed wobble a bit and even found a couple of YouTube videos whereby he shows me the bike behaving just like his.



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GrizzLee, in your earlier posts you document your opinion on ATGATT, you put Johann through the MSF course prior to him taking it formally, you meticulously prepared the bikes for this trip. These are not reckless actions but the actions of a loving father who wants to instill your spirt of adventure and the outdoors in your son. I have already commented on my observations when the three of us rode together in May. I immediately saw the coaching and mentoring and can only imagine that it continued throughout your trip North.

This is not the way that anyone wants to end a trip. But you are now both back home safely. You have many great memories to reflect on. Sometimes in life, it is the setbacks that make us better in the future.

I still hope that we have the opportunity to all ride together again this fall.

All the best,
Tim

Tim, many thanks for the kind words.
I look forward to riding with you and your son this fall. Hopefully I can get Johann's bike put back together by then. He needs new riding gear as well. The ol credit cards are going to take a continuos beating for awhile.

BTW: There will be no guessing on Birthday and Christmas gifts this year.
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:40 PM   #92
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Grizz,

I think it's natural to question yourself but don't beat yourself up about Johann's accident. You took the necessary training, bike preparation and gear precautions in case of such an instance. Instead, pat yourself on the back for having him as prepared as he could be should the worse-case scenario occur.
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:56 PM   #93
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Day 1: Mile 0 to Mile 328

Consider this the start of our Formal Trip Report. Some of this may be redundant, but hang in there. Despite the somber ending to Johann's Ride, it was still magical. Read on and find out more.


Our Life Behind Bars – Father & Son Doing Time in The Northern Frontier (Mile 0 to Mile 328)

Day 1 (June 29, 2013)

The trip started joyfully. Wow, another dream comes true.
I am finally going to get to ride to Alaska. I always wanted to do this. Never thought I would be able to until Johann was through college or at least partially through college.

(Note - Click on Pictures to see larger version)




We are ready for launch

Clean, loaded and ready for Adventure

Preamble
All the weeks leading up to the trip were hectic. We had to get the gear. Thankfully, we were outfitted pretty good in the lightweight camping gear department and clothing as well. Having been on several expeditions and treks in the north already, we knew what to take and what to leave behind.

I got my affairs at work in order as best I could. However, late technical problems came my way and I had to make adjustments as best I could. I got the house in order. Roof cleaned, yards re-seeded, all the yard trimming of the trees and bushes were done. I then focused on the bikes. First and foremost, I had to plan for tires. I knew we were going to ride about 6000 miles in total. On average I get about 10K miles on my tires. But that is a mixture of riding, mostly without big loads. I figured that I would get about ½ to ¾ of that mileage on a loaded bike. So I ordered new tires and removed the exiting sets on both bikes. I was in between service intervals on both bikes, but I decided to have them fully checked out by AlyxMoto here in the Seattle area. Alyx is a knowledgeable and thorough BMW specialist and more importantly, trust worthy. He is full of knowledge , experience and helpful suggestions. I trust his judgment and implicitly. Sooooo about $2500 later, I have both bikes tuned up, parts replaced, maintenance items all taken care of, new Touratech farkles installed and a new set of tires on both bikes. I begin packing the gear many weeks before. I was meticulous in selecting what would go and what wouldn’t. Unfortunately, Johann was still in school on the other side of Puget Sound here in Washington. So I could not get much input from him.

The plan was to camp 2 out of every 3 days to catch up on laundry, shower, etc...


Among other things, our gear included the following:
  • Sleeping bag x 2
  • Sleeping Pad x2
  • Small sleeping pillow (for dad)
  • A 4 season tent (3 man as I figured we would like some elbow room)
  • A Tarp with poles
  • Jet Boil Stove
  • Cooking Pan x 2
  • Lightweight soup bowl/mug x 2
  • Spork x 2 (combination spoon/fork)
  • Camp Ladle
  • Spatula
  • 3 changes of clothes x 2
  • 6 small rags (for cleaning the bikes)
  • 6 small soft towels (for cleaning the windscreens and helmet faceshields)
  • Soap
  • Razors (Dad shaved, Johann did not)
  • Backpackers towel x 2
  • Toothbrush x 2
  • Toothpaste
  • Deodorant x 2
  • Dehydrated food (16 days worth)
  • Laundry Detergent
  • Nintendo DS x 2 (entertainment in the tent)
  • 35 mm SLR Digital Camera
  • GoPro Camera and accessories
  • Miniature Tripod
  • Personal Locator Beacon
  • Bear Spray
  • Comprehensive First Aid Kit
  • Laptop
  • 2 TB USB drive (Backup pictures/video)
  • GPS
  • USB power cords to charge everything
  • Camera battery charger
  • Extra Camera Batteries
  • Extra Micro SD cards
  • Cell Phones x 2
  • iPod
  • Completes set of tools (all maintenance and repairs on the road if needed)
  • Air Compressor
  • Tire Gauge
  • Tubes x 3
  • Chain Lube
  • 409 Cleaner
  • Cleaning brush
  • Bike straps
  • Waterproof bike covers x 2
  • 1 Gallon Rotopax Gas Cans x 4
  • Extra oil

Johann graduated from the Washington Youth Academy about 2 weeks prior to us leaving and would take the Motorcycle Safety Class to complete his formal training and get his official motorcycle license. Again, family came to visit and many of Johann’s friends and such all came by to say goodbye for the summer and many forever. Many evenings passed during the last 2 weeks where we didn’t get anything done towards getting ready for the trip. With work ramping up (instead of down) I was getting pretty stressed. It all worked out somehow.

The Day Has Arrived
On Saturday June 29th, we left. Father and son were on there way to the north. After a coupel of weeks of hard rain, we found ourselves leaving in the middle of a northwest heat wave that was also high in humidity. No worries I thought. The farther north we go, the cooler it would get. This was a bad assumption as later we would find that high heat and humidity followed us all the way beyond the Yukon border.

Bad News at the Border


All was good… until we got to the Sumas Border crossing into Canada. The little town decided that they needed host a parade down main street, blocking the border crossing for about an hour. WTF!!! So we sat in line with our HOT M/C gear on sweating. Many people wouldn’t turn their cars off and the tractor trailers... they never shut down. It was a pretty miserable sitting there waiting to cross the border. The parade ends and we have another 40 minutes or so to cross… there is a big line of cars/trucks/RVs waiting. It was the type of deal where you really couldn’t turn your engine off. Having an air cooled bike, this was bad. Both Johann and I could feel the heat of our engines roasting us. By the time we got to the border, we were cooked. We turned off our bikes, removed our sweaty helmets and handed them our passports. All was well and they waved us through. Except Johann’s bike wouldn’t start. We had to push it out of the road. I began checking all the fuses. They were good. Next I checked the electrical system. No juice anywhere. Arrrghhhhh!! A few months prior, the battery imploded and I had to replace it. I thought to myself “not again!!!!”. I pulled the battery and left Johann to guard all the gear as I went into Abbotsford to locate a new battery. About 2 hours later I return… without a new battery. I had located 3 stores (one a John Deer Shop and 2 other general Power Motor Sport type shops). They tested the battery and said it was good. Hmmm… What to do. It was now about 3 PM in the afternoon and M/C shops are closed the next 2 days. I decided that we’d put the battery back in, button the bike up and get a ride back home or camp nearby until Tuesday. What a bummer of start I thought this was going to be.

Moving again... Yipppeeee!!!!

I put the Dakar back together and what do you know. The ignition lights lit up!!! Huh!! Will it start? I turn the key and YES, YES, YESSSSS!!!!

I don’t know what happened. I figured a chip or something overheated and had now cooled off. I thought about it for 15 minutes, trying to decide if we should go or have the bike checked out. To heck with it I said. Let’s go. We’ll deal with it later.


Fraser River Canyon

The Road

Break TIme

A storm was brewing... Oh no!?!

More Break Time

Lilloet In the Evening Sun



From there we rode over to Mission B.C. over to Maple Ridge past Harrison Lake to Hope. We then truned north on Highway 97 towards Lytton. Once at Lytton, we took a side road over to Lilloet. This is a great M/C road. However, by now it was about 8:00 and a thunderstorm was brewing. We headed over toward Clinton B.C. hoping to arrive at Downing Provincial Park via a shortcut known as the Pavilion road. The road is all gravel and has 12-18% grades on either end. It would be Johann’s first test on his bike in the dirt. How would he do?


We brought Riding Companions with us..


Near Fountain Valley.. A scenic Train and tunnel

Looking back... See the train tunnel?


The begging of the dirt and then into camp for the night.


The Pavilion Road (see the rain squall chasing us)







Looking east toward the Marble Range Mtns



I am pleased to say that he did fantastic in the dirt.
We arrived at Downing Park only to find it closed. We headed towed the Day Use area and despite the crowds there already setup and camping, we got a nice spot by the lake. Free Camping!!! As we were setting up camp (it was nearly 10:00 pm by now), a friendly Canadian gent offered us a beer. Johann declined, but I jumped at it.



One last look before we plunge into the dark forested valley below to our camp.
Beautiful eh?



Awe what a day I thought. I hope tomorrow is less stressful.
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:36 PM   #94
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I think it's natural to question yourself but don't beat yourself up about Johann's accident. You took the necessary training, bike preparation and gear precautions in case of such an instance. Instead, pat yourself on the back for having him as prepared as he could be should the worse-case scenario occur.
Thanks Sean...
I am very grateful for the safety aspects and the ATTGATT. Johann thanked me for gearing him up properly and even telling him how to handle himself if the bike goes down. In fact, the first thing he said to me (after I swallowed hard to digest what I was witnessing at the crash scene) was that he was grateful that I told him not to put his foot down at high speed to keep the bike up. He may have broke his leg, or even worse got thrown from the bike. All the while, I am looking at his feet poking through his boots.. he still had his helmet on and the bike was in pieces in the ditch. I welled up for a good hour or so as we headed back to Dawson to the nurses station.

He wants to ride again.. without hesitation he says so. We are going to get him some off-road training in the future. I also told him that when a bike wobbles that one need to press your knees into the tank and lean forward to dampen the oscillatory motion. He is diligently researching bike wobble. I am working with my mechanic to install a steering damper (if it is possible) when I get the bike home and repaired. I am still afraid of that bike now.

Trying to move on and show the brighter side of the trip. We didn't get a chance to post very often, so please read on and we'll fill in the gaps. It was a fantastic experience. We personally met a 1st nations Chief, saw wildlife, Glaciers, and many, many interesting people. We even got invited to a native salmon bake.

If my computer stays alive, I should be posting some videos as well. I have a lot of great footage and even video of a near miss accident on my ride home.... darn cager not paying attention
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Old 07-28-2013, 05:04 PM   #95
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Our Life Behind Bars – Father & Son Doing Time in The Northern Frontier (Mile 328 to Mile 919)

Days 2-3 (June 30 - July 1, 2013)

The next couple of days we got no reprieve from the heat and humidity. The heat wasn’t so bad, but the high humidity made for uncomfortable riding.

We left Downing Provincial park intending to camp at Purden Lake, another park just outside of Prince George on the Yellow Head Highway. Along the way we learned that the park was full due to the Canadian holiday weekend. So we planned to camp in McBride instead (about 1 ½ hrs south). Which we did.

Along the way we took a road near 70 Mile House off of Hwy 97 towards Green Lake and up to Hwy 24. Green Lake and the other lakes in the area were superb. I had never been on these roads. We did take quite a bit of video. However, at one of our stops, I must have forgot to put my camera bag away and I lost the bulk of my GoPro gear. All I had was just the camera, as it was mounted to my helmet. All my cables, cards, extra batteries and the LCD screen were lost.

Johann at Green Lake


It's going to be a bright sun shiny day

We ended up on the Little Fort Hwy and passed by a bunch of small lakes including Sheridan and Bridge Lake, all of which made for a nice casual morning ride.

Once at Little Fort, we headed north on the southern portion of the Yellow Head Highway through Clearwater. We stop for lunch and gas in Clearwater. The high noon sun was prominent in the sky by now and we were both suffering from the heat and humidity. It was in the mid 90’s by now.

Avoiding Heat Exhaustion


This was typical of our stops

We stopped at Blue River totally exhausted from the heat. We found a nice sign with an overhang, advertising for Helicopter Skiing. It has cool grass and shade. We hydrated and took a nap there. After a snack we proceeded up through Valemount and arrived at McBride. We stopped several times to admire the waterfalls and the high mountain views. All-in-all a pretty day for riding.


Looking good on the Yellow Head Hwy






Need some of that snow down here


Our Camp at McBride.. they had showers and Horseshoes!!!



The next day was looking nice and we packed and headed out before the heat set in. About 2 hours into the ride, we were suffering from heat. Aside from the heat, the ride was enjoyable and scenic. At one point we saw a wolf run across the road like a greyhound at full speed. A couple of stops for rest and water…. we finally made it to Prince George. Just outside of Prince George is an interesting road named Boeing Road. Interesting to me that is, as that is the name of my employer back in Seattle. We stop and get a soda and a burger before heading on. Oh, and we did find a Future Shop to replace some of the bits of my lost GoPro. We were now back in the video business.



Strange graffiti at a rest stop... Anti-Logging?!?!


Boeing Road


Riding on the Boeing Road

We made the decision to ride up north via the Cassiar Hwy instead of the Alaskan Hwy. This meant that we had a long, somewhat boring ride between Prince George and Smithers. I say boring, because the road is all 2 lane hwy and is rather featureless without much to see. We passed through very small towns like Vanderhoof, Fraser Lake, Topley, etc… It was still miserably hot and humid. We had to stop many times to ease the fatigue. Eventually we had dinner in Burns Lake. The weather to the west began to show signs of rain. We were actually excited to have it cool off. The winds came up and it began to drizzle. At one point we spotted a black bear along the road eating garbage that someone had thrown from their car... which was disturbing to us.


Another typical rest stop


Darn heat made riding so exhausting

We rode into a town called Houston (they claim the have the worlds largest Fly Rod which is on display in the town center park) when the sky opened up and it began to rain hard. We decided that it was time to get a room for the night. So our first non-tent night began 3 days into the trip. Just as planned.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:21 AM   #96
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GrizzLee-

As others have said everything has risk and you did everything you could to make sure your son was geared up right. No parenting fail there. Letting your kid sit at home playing XBox all summer - that is a parenting fail!

On a personal note I have observed that the vast majority of really cool, well balanced people I meet who also have a good relationship with their parents as adults have one thing in common - time spent outdoors with their family as kids. Whether it is serious adventures like the ones you and your son have taken in AK or just family road trip to National Parks that is the one common factor. It is that quality time spent together in an environment that demands self reliance combined with working together that does it.

Every one of the amazing trips you have taken with your son are an act of love. Down the road it is the shared experience of those trips that will define your relationship. That is some quality fathering.

Keep up the good work and keep writing ride reports about all your adventures together.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:48 PM   #97
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As others have said everything has risk and you did everything you could to make sure your son was geared up right. No parenting fail there. Letting your kid sit at home playing XBox all summer - that is a parenting fail!

On a personal note I have observed that the vast majority of really cool, well balanced people I meet who also have a good relationship with their parents as adults have one thing in common - time spent outdoors with their family as kids. Whether it is serious adventures like the ones you and your son have taken in AK or just family road trip to National Parks that is the one common factor. It is that quality time spent together in an environment that demands self reliance combined with working together that does it.

Every one of the amazing trips you have taken with your son are an act of love. Down the road it is the shared experience of those trips that will define your relationship. That is some quality fathering.

Keep up the good work and keep writing ride reports about all your adventures together.
Hey, good words. I never thought about the outdoor aspect of well balanced people. Acts of love... Absolutely!!

We are moving on and telling our story up to and even beyond the accident. There is some good value in it for both of us. I made that decsion and I hope you folks enjoy traveling with us. It is what is. And Johann agrees. He wants to get his bike back ASAP and get back to riding. I value his enthusiasm and opinion in these matters.

Thanks buddy!!!
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Hey Grizz don't beat yourself up, accidents happen. At least you were around to help your son, few are so fortunate!
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Our Life Behind Bars – Father & Son Doing Time in The Northern Frontier (Mile 919 to Mile 1376)

Days 4-5 (July 2- 3, 2013)

The day after in Houston was marvelous… Until the heat and humidity arrived… AGAIN!!
We had a nice breakfast in Smithers with a couple on a Can-Am trike whom wet met a couple of days before.

Downtown Smithers

Parking for Breakfast

Leaving Smithers




We went to New Hazleton and Moricetown to see if the natives were dip netting for Salmon yet. We arrived at Hwy 37, the Cassiar hwy. We took a few pictures and met a few more riders heading north. We also met a nice RCMP who highly recommended a good Mexican Restaurant in Terrace. He gave us directions. Since we were heading that way, it sounded good.



Buckley River






Buckley River Canyon




We arrive in Terrace a little bit early for dinner. So we gassed up the bikes and took off for the Nisga’a Lava beds. The park is about 60 miles north of Terrace and one heck of a beautiful ride through some glacier peaked mountains and inland fjords. Absolutely wonderful.



The bikes getting a Rest






WOW!!!!!

Stopped to admire many lakes, and waterfalls along the way. We ended up staying in the Nisga’a park campground.








The Tseax Cone situated in a valley above and east of the Tseax River was the source for an eruption during the 18th century that killed approximately 2,000 Nisga’a people from poisonous volcanic gases.

The real spelling/pronunciation is Anhuluut’ukwsim Laxmihl Angwinga’Asanskwhl Nisga’a (a.k.a. Nisga’a Memorial Lava Bed Park).


Lichen Growing on the Lava Rock


It is an amazing place to visit which features lava damned ponds and lakes, tree molds, cinder cones, lava tubes and abundant wildlife.


looking west from the park


Some views of the lava beds








Views from camp


Camp


Nisga'a Visitor's Center - A Long House with some cool artifacts and history.



We traveled to the end of the Nass river valley, following the amazing Nass river where it emptied into the inside passage (Ocean). It was a very scenic ride and the road ended in Gingolx a Nisga'a Village. Form the terminus of the road we could see Alaska and the entrance to the Portland Canal. The community itself has four clans which are Killer Whale, Eagle, Raven and Wolf. Apparently, the name Gingolx comes from the Nisga'a language words meaning "place of the skulls." Apparently they were attacked by another nation, the people of Gingolx held their own. They hung their enemies' skulls on sticks, lining them up along the river as a warning. We didn’t dare even think about spitting or littering in this village.


A tree mould


More Lava and lichen


Me and another tree mould


Hey, I fit...


Heading West


Cool suspension bridge at Caynon City




After lunch, we rode to New Aiyansh (traditionally known as “Gitlakdamix”). It is the capital of the Nisga’a nation.

After a good burger, we headed for Stewart and Hyder, Alaska. We took the Nisga’a Hwy over to the Cassiar hwy. It was about 34 miles of dirt road that was pretty dusty, but fun.

Just before we arrived at Meziadin Lake we saw our second , third and fourth bears of the trip. All black bears and cute as heck.





We had to stop and get our complementary pictures at the Bear Glacier on the way to Stewart. Along the way we encountered a black bear along the road that was caught between the river and a rocky cliff. The bear had no escape except to waddle down the road for a bit until it could egress the hwy safely. We had a great time herding this bear and even have GoPro video of the event.









Hey, hey, hey


Nice road to Stewart

We arrived in Stewart with a threat of rain and checked into the King Edward Hotel for the night with hopes of heading up to the Salmon Glacier the next day.



Thanks for riding with me and my dad....

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Old 07-30-2013, 10:44 PM   #100
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Well, I find it kind of funny that you mention that. in 2009, when I was 13 years old, we paddled the Yukon River, while a friend of ours (Shawn) from Whitehorse drove our motorhome to Dawson city for us. We stayed at the Downtown Hotel, and while there Shawn told us about the Sourtoe. we decided to go for it...

Here are some pics just for proof








Just glad that Johann and Lee made it home in one piece!
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I can't believe how small/young he was here...

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Just glad that Johann and Lee made it home in one piece!
He was small for so long, and now he's practically a grown man. Looking at these pictures brings it all back.

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Old 07-30-2013, 11:07 PM   #102
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First, Yukon Johann, you are the poster child for ATGATT. The pictures of your gear reflect the impact that they absorbed. It is much easier to replace any piece of gear than any piece of you. I crashed my first street bike, a 1977 RD400, at the age of 17. The crash changed my attitude toward riding safely but not my passion for riding.

GrizzLee, in your earlier posts you document your opinion on ATGATT, you put Johann through the MSF course prior to him taking it formally, you meticulously prepared the bikes for this trip. These are not reckless actions but the actions of a loving father who wants to instill your spirt of adventure and the outdoors in your son. I have already commented on my observations when the three of us rode together in May. I immediately saw the coaching and mentoring and can only imagine that it continued throughout your trip North.

This is not the way that anyone wants to end a trip. But you are now both back home safely. You have many great memories to reflect on. Sometimes in life, it is the setbacks that make us better in the future.

I still hope that we have the opportunity to all ride together again this fall.

All the best,
Tim
Tim, you said this perfectly! As the 'mom' of Johann - I can honestly say that I have no regrets, no 'oh i wish we had done this, or that'. Lee is a good father, he is cautious and will err on the side of safety every time. One thing I can say, he has given Johann life experiences that most of us never have in an entire lifetime, not to mention just in the first 17 years.

No regrets, only gratitude that they have had wonderful bonding time, and amazing experiences, and that Johann is ready to do it again, unafraid of circumstance or limitation! He is a lucky boy and I am a grateful mom!

Johann is a very fortunate young man!
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:20 PM   #103
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All the while, I am looking at his feet poking through his boots..
Trying to move on and show the brighter side of the trip.
That's what got me. I have never seen a boot that ripped up without at lease a bloody toe nail.

As has been said before, you did good making a trip like that with your son.
My 33yo son turned out great but I kick myself for never doing something that major with him.
You guys shared a major adventure and lived to talk about it.
Great stuff and thanks for sharing.
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:40 PM   #104
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Our Life Behind Bars – Father & Son Doing Time in The Northern Frontier (Mile 1376 to Mile 1532)

Day 6 (July 4, 2013)

Stewart, B.C. and Hyder, Ak, are the extent of the Nisga’a people’s territory. They hid out here to escape other natives such as the Haida and Tlingit natives.

Both Stewart and Hyder were developed as booming mining towns due to gold and silver deposits found here. Hyder is interesting in that it is the eastern most town in Alaska. Being in a temperate coastal rain forest, it rains a great deal in this area. Would it rain on us, the weather forecast is iffy at best. However, we came a long way and we wanted to see the Salmon Glacier. The salmon glacier is one of hundreds that are found on the boundary mountains between British Columbia and Alaska. It is a scenic splendor, but only if the weather is willing to cooperate.

We packed up our gear and were able to leave much of it behind at the King Edward Hotel in a temporary storage room. Off we went.






The only bear we would see up at the Salmon Glacier


Almost near the summit of the pass back into Canada


We’ve been here before… 3 other times in fact, but not on motorcycles. We were surprised to that the road through Hyder had been recently paved all the way out to the bear viewing platforms. The bear fish there when the salmon are running and the view platforms provide a safe means to view the bears in their natural habitat. There was no salmon running today and this no feeding bears to see.


Made it!!


My turn to pose for the camera


Father-son... Priceless


We approve this view...


Looking east back into Canada


Up ahead, the U.S. border and the coastal range, all encrusted in hundreds of miles of glaciers just like this one. Amazing.



We proceed up past the mining areas to the top and back into Canada. From there the views became increasingly spectacular. We finally reached the summit and while there was not rain, it was somewhat socked in with clouds. However, we had time and were not in any hurry. Beyond the high point of the road we road about 5 miles further until it was closed. The sun came out and the clouds burned off. SPECTACULAR.







The ice is moving... slowly, one can here is creaking and cracking



Johann stops to ponder the beauty


Incredible scenery.. It was hard to ride... I wanted to hike.








A mining/train tunnel??? Probably built when the glacier was much farther down the valley.


Looking back, the Salmon glacier turns the corner into the valley




This is as far as we could ride,. The road was closed and we had to turn around.


The mounds of dirt and rock show the terminus of the Salmon glacier from not too long ago. The glacier is receding faster every year.


The Salmon Glacier cascades into the valley like a waterfall.


We can see the road carved into the side of the mtn above the glacier


A nice glacial reflecting pond


As we leave Stewart and Hyder, we take a final look at the Bear Glacier


The mountains rise above us and all around us like huge cathedral buttresses capped with glaciers.







Through this notch in the valley, lies the road to Stewart and Hyder. One of the most scenic roads in the world IMHO.


One last look before we leave this beautiful place.


Gretchen looking sexy


"Dak" is looking pretty good as well.


Back on the Cassiar.. Wonderful




As we leave, we see two more bears


They look back at us to bid us goodbye and good riddance


We leave Stewart and Hyder on a natural high. We return to the Cassiar hwy with no plan where to camp. As evening draws near, we end up camping at Bell II Lodge, complete with showers and a hot tub. YES!!!

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Day 7 (July 5, 2013)

We wake up to another picture perfect day at Bell II Lodge. We spent the night in out tent. The place was wonderful, however the mosquitoes were a bit much as the tenting sites were in the back near muskeg and brush… We’d preferred to have camped out in the open more towards the lodge were the bugs were less pervasive.

We got began our ride that day with a hearty breakfast with coffee and hot chocolate courtesy of the lodge.


The grounds around Bell II Lodge




Riding along the Cassiar hway on this was marvelous, albeit on the warm side. We were on lonely roads for sure. We ride past Bob Quinn airfield and also discovered that we were following parts of the Yukon Telegraph line. A line that connected the Yukon Gold Fields to the outside world from 1899 to 1930.


We found ourselves traversing the Mt Edziza plateau in the valley below, all the way to Kinaskin Lake.



Mug Shot....















Stitch this with the previous pictures and generate a great panoramic shot of the Mtn views we enjoyed from the Cassiar Hwy.







The only "GrizzLee" we saw on the entire trip.




Keeping an eye on the boy


WOW!!!!

Holy smokes... one of those get off the bike and meditate for an hour scenes

WOW!!! x 1.0 E6 (Scientific notation for the uninformed there )


Eddontenajon Lake near Iskut.... Man oh man




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The highlight of this section was Eddontenajon Lake. No wind and a sunny day, made for glass-like conditions on the lake. The reflections increased the WOW factor immensely.



The grand road to Telegrapoh creek begins here.....


From there we gassed up in Dease lake and had a burger. TH gas station at Dease Lake is somewhat of a cross roads for motorcyclists heading north. The gas station serves as a grocery store and restaurant and carries some other necessities that are needed out in the bush, such as oil and a liquor store J

We asked around about the road conditions out to Telegraph Creek and places to camp. One of the local native gals told us that the Chief was doing a charity bicycle ride out to Telegraph Creek and that they were having a Salmon bake to celebrate the arrival of the first salmon run. Furthermore, the road was in excellent condition. We were in.


Mug shot of Yukon Johann


The canyon leaves us speechless.



It is 75 miles to Telegraph creek, all gravel and dirt mixed with Calcium Chloride. We didn’t care. It was a beautiful ride.


First and foremost, the area known as the “Grand Canyon” of the Stikine has been compared to the Grand Canyon in Colorado. The Grand Canyon of the Stikine River in northern British Columbia is one of the greatest whitewater runs in the world. Photographs do not do the river canyon justice, nor do videos. The people who have been there understand and now we fully understand. The Stikine has huge rapids, vertical walls, and lots of beauty. There aren’t many places that have the power to move people on such an emotional level such at this. Aside from important human development history in the north, the road to Telegraph Creek is on the northern edge of the Mt Edziza Plateau ,which is unique and littered with lava flows, offering striking rock formations against the coastal mountains in the background. The Stikine canyon features huge columns of basalt.



Johann trying to correct the canyon






We rode along cliffs that, at many times we 1000 feet straight down to the river below. Nice vistas and quiet moments allowed for many moments of personal meditation.


Every turn and every corner of the road offered a unique view. It was hard to press on.






Rick Mclean - Chief of the Tahltan nation.Great guy.

Telegraph Creek played an important role in this area and we got a first hand account from the Tahltan Nation, Chief Rick McLean and got personally invited to join them in a Salmon feast featuring Salmon, Bannock and fine desserts. The Chief gave us a run down of the history and role this area played in the Tahltan culture as well as how the Stikine River was instrumental in getting the Telegraph Line to Dawson and how it played a role in the Alaskan Hwy construction. Supplies were shipped up river from Wrangell to Telelgraph Creek (this is as far as they could go, the river is not navigable to “any” water craft, rafts and kayaks included) beyond the village. From there, goods were trucked over the very road we rode down to Dease Lake and down the Dease River to the Alaska Hwy camp up north (Watson Lake). The Chief gave us a personal invite to camp on his land by the Stikine River and a beer that evening.


The chief let us camp in Telegraph creek by the Stikine River.The truck in the background was used to haul supplies up to the Dease River back "in the day" in constructing the Alaskan Hwy.

It was an incredible day for sure. This day was one of the most precious days of the trip. Great scenery, great riding, and great people.

We slept good that night and had an equally fantastic ride out back to the Cassiar the next day. We took lots of video that is sure to be posted here as well.

Thanks for riding with us.

Until Next Time....
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