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Old 06-29-2013, 05:14 AM   #31
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Jeez, Jerry! If you can get hurt that badly on a track without running into somebody else, that does not bode well for mucking it up on the street.

One of my former bosses told me his best friend had wanted to do a track day for years as a "safe" alternative to riding aggressively on the streets. His wife acquiesced to his request for a track day as a birthday present, and my boss said his friend was on top of the world when he got his bike on the track. 15 minutes later he was dead after high-siding. His wife saw it happen.
Every time you throw a leg over a motorcycle you risk a chance of ending up dead. Of course the same is true of stepping into the shower.

I've crashed at over 130 MPH on the track and walked away with a couple bruises. I was in a wreck on the street sitting still and ended up in the hospital for 2 months with a broken back. Shit happens and we don't get to control everything that happens to us.
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Old 06-29-2013, 07:13 AM   #32
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Jeez, Jerry! If you can get hurt that badly on a track without running into somebody else, that does not bode well for mucking it up on the street.
Years riding: 45
Crashes on the track: 4
Crashes on the street: 0

I'll take my chances on the street, thanks.
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:02 AM   #33
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The number means nothing to me, its the FEEL of speed that turns me on.
I really enjoy a bike that feels really fast at lower speeds, and one I can abuse and get every last bit of performance out of, drafting, tucking in, working the shifter, planning ahead.

Small bikes rule for fun!
There are a lot of good posts in this thread but this one best describes how I feel. I may be slowing down as I get older but I refuse to grow up or let the squid in me completely die. The bike I ride the most often is only 150cc and I ride the hell out of it. It may not be fast but it FEELS faster than it is.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:39 AM   #34
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Every time you throw a leg over a motorcycle you risk a chance of ending up dead. Of course the same is true of stepping into the shower.

I've crashed at over 130 MPH on the track and walked away with a couple bruises. I was in a wreck on the street sitting still and ended up in the hospital for 2 months with a broken back. Shit happens and we don't get to control everything that happens to us.
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Years riding: 45
Crashes on the track: 4
Crashes on the street: 0

I'll take my chances on the street, thanks.
I'm not advocating a risk-free lifestyle. As I told a family member, I could take it to the other extreme and stay home in bed with the curtains drawn all day... and then die of bed sores. You just have to manage your risks, but you'll never eliminate it. The are simply more variables on the street and therefore there is less margin for error, at least where I live.

BTW, Albie, you must be psychic. I almost had a bad fall last night getting out of the shower. Foot hit the floor and went skating. No points for style, I'm afraid.

Forgot to add, JB, that a friend of mine low-sided at about 40 mph without hitting anything. I'm sure his gear was not as good as yours was, but when I read through your catalog of injuries, it was almost identical to his. But he's back in the saddle now.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:59 AM   #35
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When did I stop caring?

When I started reading ride reports, and seeing the pictures that people were taking of the places I rushed through at over 100 mph.

I kept wondering why I wasn't seeing all these great places, but I never slowed down to look.

Speed is fun, but a ride report that just says "1500 miles in 17 hours" isn't all that interesting.
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:00 AM   #36
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To paraphrase a man I hate - "It's not speed that kills, it's the sudden stopping"


I don't care how fast I go, and that means how slowly I drive sometimes and how fast I drive sometimes. I don't pay any attention to the speedo, at all.

Of course, I'm living in a country where speeding tickets have not yet become the fashion, let alone efficient traffic policing.

So I drive according to conditions and am fast, but not suicidally fast, a lot of the time. But sometimes I'm slow, slow - not like a tiger
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:19 AM   #37
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When did I stop caring?

When I started reading ride reports, and seeing the pictures that people were taking of the places I rushed through at over 100 mph.

I kept wondering why I wasn't seeing all these great places, but I never slowed down to look.

Speed is fun, but a ride report that just says "1500 miles in 17 hours" isn't all that interesting.
That may be the best reason of all.
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Old 06-29-2013, 01:03 PM   #38
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Call it getting old, but I really don't give a rip about going fast. I like carving nice arcs like on a board, but I could care less about times....
The only times I care about speed/making time is when I am trying to gobble up massive amounts of slab in order to reach a fun destination.....or perhaps the dirt road equivalent, like on ruta 40 in Patagonia.
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Old 06-29-2013, 03:05 PM   #39
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Let me be contrary:

I do enjoy the game of rapid transit. I live in western Canada which has many hundreds of kilometers of straight roads before one hits mountaims or twisties. I have learned to try to edge-walk the radar by trying to AVERAGE 10% over the speed limit for a tank of gas at a time.

small pleasures.

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Old 06-29-2013, 06:10 PM   #40
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BTW, Albie, you must be psychic. I almost had a bad fall last night getting out of the shower. Foot hit the floor and went skating. No points for style, I'm afraid.
Ahhh but you do get survival points,
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Old 06-30-2013, 09:58 AM   #41
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I do enjoy the game of rapid transit. I live in western Canada which has many hundreds of kilometers of straight roads before one hits mountaims or twisties.
Where is this flat place in Western Canada that you speak of? Okanogan Valley???
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Old 06-30-2013, 01:07 PM   #42
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Glassware-

Edmonton of the pancake topography.

I consider anything west of the Sask border to be western Canada though.

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Old 07-01-2013, 05:48 AM   #43
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My 2 cents..............

I have found that speed is relative.........45 mph on a gravel road feels faster and tests your skills more than 120 mph on the slab.
Try it you will like it.......just sayin.........
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:12 AM   #44
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When I began to realize the journey was the reason.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:28 AM   #45
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Second answer, when I realized I could get over 80mpg if I showed a little restraint.
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