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Old 08-12-2013, 07:12 AM   #181
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I could not agree more, and it is mostly about mastering the panic and not reacting when the chair gets light.I worked on that a bit more yesterday.DB
Panic comes when a situation exceeds our experience and we have ran exhausted our bag of tricks. There are limits with every outfit. There are limits to everyone's skill envelope. Tarka makes some good points. Taking a class is not a bad idea. Reading things that have been written in this thread is a good thing also. However it will be in the practice after either of these things that thing swill begin to come together.
In my previous post I stated that your evaluation of where you went wrong was dead on. THAT means a lot!
Consider the ' What If's ' related to what happened what could have happened what could have been done or not done regarding what happened. Also maybe consider the ' What If's ' related to different types of outfits other than what you have. Lighter sidecar? Less rubber on the road. Less experience? Etc etc.
Some athletes use what has been called 'imaging'. It is imagining certain situations and what or how to react to them. This can be done as experience grows with a sidecar outfit also. Bad images can be produced by bad experiences if we want to view them that way....or we can evaluate the bad experience as you have done in an effort to see what we may have been able to do differently and turn it into a learning experience.
Like you say at the end of your posts "Patience: A minor form of despair disguised as a virtue".
Good way to look at things. We are all learning and it does take patience.
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:03 PM   #182
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Wow

Slightly off topic I know since this thread is called "going in too hot"......but this guy kinda came out too hot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHHtuemhxkE
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:01 PM   #183
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Continuing Educ.

I learned a bit more today, I've been to a parking lot and doing some rt circles and straight lines car in the air about everyday. Tonight the woman friend and I headed out(supper ride) I took her and dog to parking lot for some circles she's a lite wt her and dog with jacket and helmet 150-60ish max.It was easy to put her up and do rt circle just a very hard rt, not so easy on the road every time I got a sharp right I tried to pick her up mostly couldn't do it easily(I'm no Dana).

My flirtation with diaster last Fri was a total panic on my part, we were working but car was down.It was closing the throttle and stabbing the rear brake.
Hell it's a left turn tactic, if you don't get enough rotation from closing the throttle while setting up a left add a little rear brake.
A supper ride is usually a minimum of 90 miles I streched it out to 140 round trip to practice the rts.Claude you build a really nice stable rig, it's damned hard to get rig with lite passenger into the air with spirited riding that's sane.I'm sure Tarka and Dana could do it but I'm not that skilled yet,it woud seem Tarka's observation of my confidence passed my skill level and left it for dead was very accurate.DB

I loved spirited riding on 2 wheels and was very good at it much better than I am with a chair, haven't been in any real trouble except the occasional speeding ticket in awhile, this sidecar stuff is completely different but we'll get it.DB
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:51 AM   #184
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My flirtation with diaster last Fri was a total panic on my part, we were working but car was down.It was closing the throttle and stabbing the rear brake.
Hell it's a left turn tactic, if you don't get enough rotation from closing the throttle while setting up a left add a little rear brake.
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You don't have a sidecar brake? Rear brake on mine with the rear ans sidecar linked together drags the car and turns me right.
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Old 08-14-2013, 06:11 AM   #185
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In repose to the GOOD sidecar brake comment by Bobmw I think that could possibly be a good topic for a different thread. The discussion here may really confuse things as it does have a lot of variables. Sidecar braking systems and what they do or do not do vary quite a bit depending on many factors including the sidecar itself.
VARIABLES RELATED TO BRAKES ON SIDECAR:
HOW THEY ARE PLUMBED IN, WHERE THEY ARE PLUMBED IN, WHETHER THEY ARE PLUMBED IN OR A SELFCONTAINED SYSTEM, HOW HEAVY OR LIGHT THE SIDECAR IS, HOW LARGE THE SIDECAR IS RELATED TO THE BIKE, SIZE OF SIDECAR TIRE COMPARED TO BIKE AND SO FORTH.

Anyone want to begin a thread related to sidecar brakes and how they affect handling on various outfits with various setups?
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Old 08-19-2013, 07:43 AM   #186
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The wife found out what happens this weekend when you are going into a corner to hot and you lock up the rear brake .
She rolled the sidecar over on to her .
Lucky she has no injuries only the bike got a bit bashed around .
The road was very sandy so that helped a lot with no injuries .

One very lucky lady

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Old 08-19-2013, 02:13 PM   #187
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Sorry to hear about the accident Pops but really glad she is alright.
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:59 PM   #188
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The wife found out what happens this weekend when you are going into a corner to hot and you lock up the rear brake .
She rolled the sidecar over on to her .
Lucky she has no injuries only the bike got a bit bashed around....
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Sorry to hear about the accident Pops but really glad she is alright.
Yes sirree. +1 Really glad she's OK.
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Old 05-31-2014, 11:24 AM   #189
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Bump.

This should be a 'sticky'
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