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Old 06-13-2014, 01:58 PM   #1
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Heat from Cylinders on New GS-LC

Just wondering if anybody has a good solution for the "hot foot" syndrome I've noticed on my 2013 GS-LC. I'm already using BMW summer boots, with very light socks, but the heat is somewhat bothersome, especially in city traffic here in the South. I also ride with Aerostich pants and a Darien or First Gear jacket (as a firm "ATGATT" believer).

I don't notice as much of this issue on my 1997 RT, for some reason. I'm hoping maybe someone has or will develop a cooling boot/sock version of the heated vests we all use. Other than that, or some equally clever solution, I guess I'll just chalk it up to greater sensitivity at my advancing age and try to get used to it!
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:58 PM   #2
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I'm in the same cauldron. I didn't notice the heat for the first 12,000 miles because it was fall-winter-spring, but now that I'm wearing Motoport mesh Kevlar pants for the summer, my right leg/foot is toasting. I've been told that Paige from Aeroflow is working on designing some sort of deflector but to me the onus is on BMW.
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Old 06-13-2014, 03:26 PM   #3
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I don't notice it so much on my feet, but on my right calf area. I think the heat from the exhaust system gets swirled up and around that area. some sort of shield seems to be in order.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:56 PM   #4
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An AF-XIED on setting 7 or 8 would richen the mixture and lower the exhaust temperature. I haven't measured how much though--perhaps 50-75 degrees.
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:18 PM   #5
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On long warm rides, I've been feeling more heat from the left side. Seems much more so than was on the camhead.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:51 PM   #6
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I'm encounter the same heat while riding, but is on the right side of the bike.
From the meter show outside temperature from 30 to 34 deg C, engine temperature most of the time is 95 to 100 deg C while on the move. I can hear the fan keep running most of the time.
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Old 06-14-2014, 02:33 AM   #7
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An AF-XIED on setting 7 or 8 would richen the mixture and lower the exhaust temperature. I haven't measured how much though--perhaps 50-75 degrees.
Really? if so why BMW would not do this from the start? trying to understand
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Really? if so why BMW would not do this from the start? trying to understand
Because BMW has to pass emissions in whatever country they are selling the bike. With the air-fuel ration changed the bike would no longer pass the emission tests that the manufacturers have to.
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Because BMW has to pass emissions in whatever country they are selling the bike. With the air-fuel ration changed the bike would no longer pass the emission tests that the manufacturers have to.
ok, it makes sense. What are the repercussions, lower efficiency?
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ok, it makes sense. What are the repercussions, lower efficiency?
The benefits are better throttle response and low-end (rpm/throttle), and lower exhaust temperature. The repercussions are lower catalytic converter efficiency and possibly 1-2 mpg hit to gas mileage. It is not for street use according to the manufacturer (like Powercommander and Techlusion) and BMW may not approve.
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Old 06-14-2014, 07:32 AM   #11
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I too noticed pronounced heat on my foot during a test ride taken last winter. It was a very nice and mild weather day, so I can't say about summertime temperatures.
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The worst of the heat seems to come from the catalytic converter, right ahead of the muffler. Good opportunity for someone to market a cat eliminator pipe.
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Old 06-14-2014, 08:01 AM   #13
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Just wondering if anybody has a good solution for the "hot foot" syndrome I've noticed on my 2013 GS-LC. I'm already using BMW summer boots, with very light socks, but the heat is somewhat bothersome, especially in city traffic here in the South. I also ride with Aerostich pants and a Darien or First Gear jacket (as a firm "ATGATT" believer).

I don't notice as much of this issue on my 1997 RT, for some reason. I'm hoping maybe someone has or will develop a cooling boot/sock version of the heated vests we all use. Other than that, or some equally clever solution, I guess I'll just chalk it up to greater sensitivity at my advancing age and try to get used to it!
Don't understand why your RT isn't the same?? Doesn't your RT have body work on it that greatly changes the airflow versus a GS with the jugs hanging out?
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Old 06-14-2014, 08:06 AM   #14
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.....but to me the onus is on BMW.



You've never had one before have you? NOTHING is BMW's fault...

By the way..the onus is on BMW? Did you notice the the jugs sticking out there when you were shopping, test riding? Or did it just strike you that the heat making part, was hanging out over your feet months into ownership?

Teasing..calm down..
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Old 06-14-2014, 08:10 AM   #15
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I could tell that you were putting me on. This is GS/RT #9 but is LC #1. Jugs I'm used to (and like all kinds!) but radiators are something else. It's not a deal breaker, for sure


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