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Old 10-19-2013, 05:30 PM   #451
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Dove in head first yesterday and bought a 2014 GSA olive green, every option. traded 2012 GS Rally. They said it should be here in Jan-Feb.
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Old 10-19-2013, 07:24 PM   #452
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Dove in head first yesterday and bought a 2014 GSA olive green, every option. traded 2012 GS Rally. They said it should be here in Jan-Feb.
Sweet! Has pricing been released yet?

Nice looking Lab BTW. We have a two year old Whitey.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:18 PM   #453
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So Jabba man, you don't want a GS (liquid or not).
I want to want one!- But that kind of electro shit makes me nutty. I'm gonna hold out for another year on my 2002... see what develops. Right now I'm leaning toward an oilhead GSA
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:05 AM   #454
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Dove in head first yesterday and bought a 2014 GSA olive green, every option. traded 2012 GS Rally. They said it should be here in Jan-Feb.
They're not released in the UK till 15th March, not saying it won't be out earlier in the US but traditionally the new models like the K16 and GSW , have been released a couple of weeks later in the US. As much to do with the logistics of shipping them across the pond as anything I guess.
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:44 AM   #455
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I've thought about this too. I think the answer is "kind of". One could argue that this is a third iteration bike. The 2013 GS (1), the 2014 GS (2), and sometime in the spring the 2014 GS Adventure (3). I've heard BMW makes modifications within the same model year too.

I'm hoping most the issues will be sorted on the Adventure (probably already sorted on the 2014 GS), and no new ones creep up.
I got one of the very first '06 GSAs. The 1200GS had been out for quite a while by then. I experienced lots of teething problems. Front wheel was out of round. The replacement wheel, shipped from Bavaria, was even more out of round. They eventually got me one that didn't wobble. Seal went and oiled down the clutch. Seal on the drive shaft leaked, handful of other small issues. Battery failed physically after 12 months.

On all the problems except the battery, BMW made good on it. I was out quite a bit of time ferrying the bike to the dealer (it's 200 miles from here) but I was never billed for anything.

I've got 50K miles on it now, rock solid once the bugs were worked out.

Of course there's *always* something newer/better... wish mine didn't have servo brakes and I wish mine had the enduro gearbox and I wish mine had TPM and I wish mine had ESA... so you can have one and enjoy the riding, or you can wait for the "perfect" opportunity to jump in... and wait... and wait... and wait...
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:58 AM   #456
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If they made one with high quality adjustable suspension, no ABS, 50 lbs lighter- I'd sign a check today. All this fancy pants electronic shit adds up to enormous repair bills at some point- or gremlins that take forever to track down and sort out. One of the great joys of owning a motorcycle is getting it sorted out just for you- spending the time to tune it to your needs and preferences. A push button bike for a push button society I guess. How do you spend hours in the garage tinkering and bonding with a push button?
I used to think the electronics was more liability than asset.

Then, out in the middle of nowhere in northern Montana, I got weird dash lights, ABS light coming on etc. Bike would cut out once in a while and then suddenly come to life again.

I limped into the Canadian border crossing called my dealer for help troubleshooting.

It turned out the battery had physically broken internally such that it was shorting out when I'd hit a bump/go around a curve.

On an old fashioned bike, I very likely would have smoked the charging system. Thanks to the technology that prevented it from melting wires and turning the rectifier into a flaming ball of poo, all I had to do was limp to the closest Canada Tire where they had an exact replacement battery in stock and already charged. In went the battery, I was back on the road.

I've got over 100,000 miles between the two GSA's I've owned. I use them fairly hard. Other than that battery, the only electrical failures I've ever had were light bulbs.

Likewise when riding at altitude in the mountains, it is a real joy to not have the thing lose power/become hard to start because I'm over 10,000 feet. I've done 6 or 7 passes at over 13,000' and the engine management works so well that my only gripe is that the damn thing won't wheelie above 6,500'

I think the electronics is a huge positive, not a negative.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:18 PM   #457
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Does anyone know if the front wheel is the same as the older gsa's?
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Old 10-20-2013, 02:07 PM   #458
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Does anyone know if the front wheel is the same as the older gsa's?
No it's not.
Sorry to be harsh but living under a rock?
The specs are out there a simple google search will help you.
In all new GS tests or presentations they mention the wider wheels.
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Old 10-20-2013, 03:11 PM   #459
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No it's not.
Sorry to be harsh but living under a rock?
The specs are out there a simple google search will help you.
In all new GS tests or presentations they mention the wider wheels.
Can you try being less of a dick? This thread--and forum--are here in part to have discussions and provide information of the sort he's asking for.
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Old 10-20-2013, 03:30 PM   #460
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Sweet! Has pricing been released yet?

Nice looking Lab BTW. We have a two year old Whitey.
We did the deal using 2013 pricing, This is a great dealer (cycle works , Barrington IL.) If there is a giant price increase we will work it out.
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Old 10-20-2013, 04:37 PM   #461
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Can you try being less of a dick? This thread--and forum--are here in part to have discussions and provide information of the sort he's asking for.
I agree...and it seems to get worse
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:50 AM   #462
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No it's not.
Sorry to be harsh but living under a rock?
The specs are out there a simple google search will help you.
In all new GS tests or presentations they mention the wider wheels.

I realize the rim is 3.5 inches but that doesn't necessarily mean that the hub dimensions and axle sizes are altered. The older wheels have a shim that aligns the hub with the forks so the hub dimensions could be the same. But since the rear hub is totally different, I would guess the front is as well. I haven't found any hub dimensions. Haven't seen a discussion of the new radial brake arrangement either. If anyone knows the hub dimensions with some certainty it would be interesting to me. Thanks
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:59 AM   #463
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We did the deal using 2013 pricing, This is a great dealer (cycle works , Barrington IL.) If there is a giant price increase we will work it out.
My dealer also. Great guys.
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:40 AM   #464
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Looks to me as though the new GSA WC windscreen will bolt right on to a standard GS WC.
If so, BMW had better stock up on them. I bet they'll be selling quite a few.

I don't own a WC yet. Maybe in a year or so. But I did test ride the GS WC 2 times. I was pretty impressed with the stock screen in my brief experience, although I thought that for my liking, a smidgen more screen size would be ideal.
The GSA screen looks as if it will provide just a bit more coverage and retains the angular design lines that look good on the bike.

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In the Hi-def pics it looks that the GSA WC "winglets" are frosted as opposed to the clear plastic used on the previous GSA.
Good idea, in my experience those clear winglets scratched VERY easlly.
In fact, I painted mine to match body color (close enough anyway).

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Old 10-21-2013, 01:13 PM   #465
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In the Hi-def pics it looks that the GSA WC "winglets" are frosted as opposed to the clear plastic used on the previous GSA.
Good idea, in my experience those clear winglets scratched VERY easlly.
In fact, I painted mine to match body color (close enough anyway).

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And even better they are offering some tinted ones as accessories to match the tinted screen. Sold !
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