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Old 07-05-2013, 06:26 AM   #1
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Yamaha to make CB/CBR 500X/F competitor

recently found a image of a twin Yamaha released on show with its new triple it will also feature a cross plane crank the article is quick brief but size wise looks like a 500cc

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Old 07-05-2013, 06:29 AM   #2
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Yea, I read that article over at Motorcycle Daily, I wonder what they've got planned? Sounds interesting, to say the least.
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Old 07-05-2013, 06:37 AM   #3
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another small capacity sports styled bike with actual sports handling would be nice, just have a look at the Honda CBR 125 and then the Yamaha YZF R125 if they can make that sort of good chassis and decent brakes would be a good buy.
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:33 AM   #4
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If it is 2/3's of the triple like motorcycledaily conjectures and has 70 HP then it will be in a completely different class than the Honda 500's which would offer no competition. I guess it may be as much competition as the WR250R is to the CRF250L. Granted the WR is also an extra $2k, but it pretty much spanks the CRF in every category 32hp vs 22hp etc.. Hopefully whatever this new motor is follows the FZ-09 pricing model and stays competitive.

Is it just me or does that motor in the pic actually not look that small? maybe its the angle, but it looks bigger then if you just lopped a cylinder off the triple sitting next to it, pipe size, height etc. Any reason for Yamaha to introduce a new 1,200cc twin?

In any case I have been longing for a bike with the 80HP 500cc 4stroke twin from the Yamaha Phazer snowmobile for a while now.. would be great if this was it!
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:23 PM   #5
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Granted the WR is also an extra $2k, but it pretty much spanks the CRF in every category 32hp vs 22hp etc..



Best I've read for a stock WR250R is 25.4, but it was on a Dynojet...their correction factor is very generous...probably closer to 21 HP at the wheel.
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:54 PM   #6
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Oops! You're right. I somehow got the dyno for a drz400 mixed up with the WR.

My bad, thanks for the correct.
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I don't think they'll go for 70hp..
Probably for MPG figures like Honda.

As long as it has over 50hp it'll be a seller.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:32 AM   #8
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I don't think they'll go for 70hp..
Probably for MPG figures like Honda.

As long as it has over 50hp it'll be a seller.
No it won't. Now that you're within the European Imperium you too will be subjected to the Lex Europa and thus to tiered licenses. They will need to fill the A2 gap with models around 35kw. They won't go over 50hp. In any case: congratulations!
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No it won't. Now that you're within the European Imperium you too will be subjected to the Lex Europa and thus to tiered licenses. They will need to fill the A2 gap with models around 35kw. They won't go over 50hp
We already had those licences for a few years.. and you can buy even the
FZ1 with 35kW so I'm not too worried about it yet.

Just read a Duke 390 review, no complaints from the reviewer other then
performance after 80mph (just what I'd say about the NC700X I rode) and
it's got even better MPG figures then the NC.

I wonder if I could live with such a bike..

(I tried a 2008-2009 Duke 690 and was blown away, owned a Kawasaki
650R at the time.)
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Looks bigger than 500cc to me.
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Looks bigger than 500cc to me.
Probably because it is.
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Any reason for Yamaha to introduce a new 1,200cc twin?
Oh I hope so. I'd love to get a big sporting twin from Japan.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:03 AM   #13
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They will probably make a new TDM.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:26 AM   #14
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The world already has to many sportbikes. What we need are more standards. The CB500F looks like it might be a standard in terms of riding position. The late Nighthawk 750 was definitely a standard, with perfect ergos. The new CB1100 is noticeably more "sporty" Beautiful, but not something I could handle an all day ride on. There needs to be more "usable" bikes that don't go to far in any direction.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:49 AM   #15
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Yamaha has always seen what other companies have done and tried to out do them the CBR600RR is a standard sports bike but the R6 is more razor edge and more to it that makes it have a better sporting appeal, Yamaha have enough Standard bikes they need to fill the gap between YZF R125 - R6.
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