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Old 03-15-2012, 08:25 PM   #1
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Question Good Dual Sport Tires

Are there any good threads about good off road oriented D/S tires that aren't full knobbies?

I've run Kenda 270's and IRC GP-1's (which seem almost identical) on a DRZ400S and an XT225 with good results. They both seem pretty grippy, decent on road, easy to mount, and relatively long lasting.

I'm looking for tires for the WR450 I just bought and was wondering what else I might consider.

Any suggestions?
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Old 03-16-2012, 03:55 AM   #2
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Shinko 700 and 705 are popular.
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Michelin T63

Copy & paste this into Google:

dual sport tires site:www.advrider.com
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:13 AM   #3
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yea t63 or shinko 244 are good tires.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:26 AM   #4
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Shinko 700

Been using them for 4 years, best tire for my XR650l. Tried the Shinko 705 but in gravel they are really scary.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:27 AM   #5
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Not sure but you might look at the Dunlop 606. Might be to aggressive, but they do last a long time on the road.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:31 AM   #6
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Not sure but you might look at the Dunlop 606. Might be to aggressive, but they do last a long time on the road.
Yep, the 606 gets my vote too!
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:47 AM   #7
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The 606 was a nightmare to mount because of the stiff sidewall. The front was especially hard, I almost never got the valvestem in place.


Have any of you tried the Pirelli MT-43 ? Or the IRC GP-110 ?

I'll take a look at the Shinko's.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:53 AM   #8
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The 606 was a nightmare to mount because of the stiff sidewall. The front was especially hard, I almost never got the valvestem in place.


Have any of you tried the Pirelli MT-43 ? Or the IRC GP-110 ?

I'll take a look at the Shinko's.
I agree the 606 is worth paying someone to install, but what I have done is set them out in the sun all day. The get the wifes hair dryer, and heat up that last bite. Get a buddy to push on the opposite side of the tire, and get a big tire iron. Then its not that bad, or just pay 20 bucks to have a shop put it on with a machine.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:25 AM   #9
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It is a full knob, so maybe not what you're looking for.

Metzeler Unicross. Amazing off road, and MORE amazing on the street. I could keep up with motards while riding my DR350 on pavement with a Unicross mounted front and rear. I can't imagine ever using a different DS tire on a 650cc or smaller DS. They were great on my XR650R too.

I've used 606s, MT21s, K270s , and many others in the past.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:26 AM   #10
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If you think the 606 is hard to install, try installing Maxxis Desert ITs.

I have run T63s and D606s on my DRZ and TE610. Both were decent dual sport tires, with the nod going to the 606 for traction off-road, but both definitely give up something to more aggressive tires, both DOT (like AC10s, Scorpion pro FIMs) and non-DOT. Note that both the T63 and the D606 are on the knobby end of the knobby-to-street DOT tire spectrum.

I love comments about "keeping up with ____ on the street" on knobbies. Sure you did, that just means that you were closer to the limit of your tires than they were. You can keep up with a literbike on full non-DOT knobbies if he rides slow enough and you ride hard enough. It means nearly nothing about the tires which a whole bunch of other information and qualifiers.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:28 AM   #11
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My vote is for the T63s I run them on my xr650l IRC GP-1 also has a good following.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:36 AM   #12
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I pulled the trigger on a set of 244's from AMT to the tune of 86 bucks front and back.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:40 AM   #13
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I've tried the MT-43 on my 450EXC and didn't like it. It's more of a street legal pretend trials tire than a dual sport tire, and didn't last very long with street use, and wasn't very good in any sort of wet dirt. Also if it goes flat your bike will be sideways immediately. That's true with the Kendas too, but not the 606 knobbies.
I've got the Kenda 270s on the KLR, and they're pretty good everywhere I would take it. Not so hot in mud or slick clay, but surprisingly good in snow. 8" of powder on a mountain road and the rear pulled like it was dry pavement, though the front wandered. I expected to crash right away but it kept going for about a mile. 12" stopped me with the pegs dragging and all.

IMO (and it's pretty consistent with what most others say): 606 for lots of dirt and dirt roads, and occasional pavement.
K270 or equivalent for lots of dirt roads, pavement and occasional real dirt.
High power and pavement will smoke the dirt ability out of a 606 pretty fast.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:26 AM   #14
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Have any of you tried the Pirelli MT-43 ?
Maybe not for everyone but IMHO they ROCK! Ran the Fall PB300 on them and never had a worry, they handle road duty well too.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:57 AM   #15
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If you think the 606 is hard to install, try installing Maxxis Desert ITs. .....

Must be a Maxxis thing. I had to use a hacksaw plus a big pair of dykes to cut the bead to get a 6006 off my LC4. I have never paid to have a tire changed and have done dozens - maybe hundreds if you count trail side flats. So this wasn't my first trip around the tire changing block. But that Maxxis nearly kicked my ass. It is no wonder the thing wore like iron.





FWIW, I just run MT-21's on everything and have for many, many years and a few bikes. They are not the best knobby or the best 50/50 or the best street tire by any means. What they are is a good compromise between all of those plus they are very predictable on and off road. Or else I have just been riding on them so long they seem predictable to me. My LC4 evaporates them but I still prefer them to everything else I have tried.
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