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Old 07-05-2013, 11:36 PM   #16
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Hmmm...

What county was the ticket issued in?

You have the right to request a trial and to have that trial take place in the county seat of whatever county the ticket was issued in. This may or may not help depending on where the officer who wrote you up is stationed.

You can also get continuances and ask for a night court appearance if the offense occurred during the day in hopes that the officer won't appear.

By writing you for the double yellow violation, he/she took away your ability to subpoena the officer in the plane to testify about observing/clocking your alleged speed.

Or you could call the court and ask for a trial by declaration and hope...
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:41 PM   #17
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Recent CA "crossing a double yellow" ticket thread: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=893721

Recent MV to Stinson enforcement thread: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=892776

Good luck.
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:49 PM   #18
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Van XR suggested I'd have to come down to SoCal, so I explained ticket was issued in NorCal. Stinson Beach is north of SF last time I checked. I can't do traffic school as I did it 6 months ago.

One or two useful tips...thanks.

The rest...yeah, right.
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Old 07-06-2013, 12:26 AM   #19
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You'll have to deal with it in the Superior Court of the county you were cited in. Was the violation 21460(a)? In San Mateo county it costs $237 and another $49 in 'administrative fees' if you opt for traffic school plus whatever the school you choose charges you, somewhere between $20 and $50 and you can only repeat T school every 18 months. The violation by itself is eligible for T school but your record will determine if you're eligible. So, if eligible it will cost just over $300 to keep it off your record and UNreported to your insurance company. If not, just $239 plus whatever your insurance company adds to you're premium.
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:02 AM   #20
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As I understand it, you can try to challenge, and hope that the officer that wrote the ticket appears in court. The evidence he presents will be "hear say" therefore in admissible for a traffic offense. If the actual observer appears may have to just take your lumps.
But, please some research.
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:35 AM   #21
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Ticket was in NorCal...

Can't do traffic school...

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Old 07-06-2013, 02:29 PM   #22
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In CA, we can only do traffic school once every 18 months.

It will cost you a few hundred bucks, and a raise of insurance.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:18 AM   #23
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If you are eligible, you may take traffic school. If you opt to go to court, both officers must show up. I will tell you all CHP aircraft have video, and almost always record the violation.
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Old 07-07-2013, 07:44 AM   #24
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I got stopped both ways last year going to MotoGP in Monterey (RR in my sig). Second stop was a ticket for 9 over (was doing 20 over by radar), cop was nice to the old man on a new bike so I could do traffic school. Cost me $287 for the fine, plus $65 to go to traffic school, plus $25 for the online class I completed in about an hour. The old classroom BS is just that.

Anyway, I called my insurance agent and it would have raised my rates over 3 years equaling about 3 times the amount of the fine. So it was worth it to keep it off.

Now this damn trip is coming up again in two weeks. Guess I'll have to keep it no more than 10 over.
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:40 AM   #25
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If you are eligible, you may take traffic school. If you opt to go to court, both officers must show up. I will tell you all CHP aircraft have video, and almost always record the violation.
I beat a CHP aircraft speeding tkt some years back. I subpoenaed the officer that pulled me over and the helicopter spotter and her tally sheet. The officer on the ground was worthless as he only reacted to the spotter's choice and had no idea how fast I was going. Luckily for me, the spotter had been out of the academy for just seven months and had never worked the street. In addition, her tally sheet showed that she had notified three CHP cars below of three speeders all at the same time. She couldn't determine which car of the three was mine or how fast she thought I was going. Felt great walking out of court with a not guilty verdict!
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Old 07-07-2013, 02:24 PM   #26
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So the guy in the plane will say he saw a speeder. But the guy who wrote you a ticket said crossing the double yellow. Sounds like you can't lose.
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Old 07-07-2013, 03:41 PM   #27
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I got a ticket in SoCal a couple years ago, and was able to do traffic school, on the internet, and I live in Arizona. So I don't know why you wouldn't be able to do it from NorCal.
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Old 07-07-2013, 04:42 PM   #28
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He can't go to school because he has already used up his school option for the year. That the plane alerted the cop to a speeder is irrelevant. He wasn't cited for speeding, he was cited for crossing the yellow by the cop that wrote the ticket. I presume he saw it, maybe it is on video tape.

As far as postponing this for ever, in the hope the cop does not show up, it won't work. Without attorney representation, you only get one postponement. Cops like court time, part of the job if on duty, overtime with a minimum number of hours guaranteed, if off duty.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:20 PM   #29
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You screwed up and know it. Pay the fine and move on.
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:26 PM   #30
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is video from the aircraft good enuf to show your tag numbers?
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