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View Results: Countersteering and ATGATT - Correlation?
Yes teach countersteering, I am ATGATT 25 50.00%
No need to teach countersteering, I am ATGATT 5 10.00%
Yes teach countersteering, gear as I see fit 14 28.00%
No need to teach countersteering, gear as I see fit 6 12.00%
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Old 08-29-2013, 07:45 AM   #1
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Understanding Countersteering and ATGATT, Correlation?

So, we have to piled up threads here, about two of the more contentious topics on motorcycle boards. Whether it is important for n00bs to understand countersteering, and ATGATT. I wondered if their is a correlation, so I'm conducting a poll. Please just participate in the poll, there are already places to go pile on the side you don't agree with.

It seems we basically have four possibilities, based on a two by two matrix:

ATGATT, Yes teach countersteering.
ATGATT, Pfft to teaching countersteering.
Gear as I see fit, Yes teach countersteering.
Gear as I see fit, Pfft to countersteering.

Obviously, gear as I see fit and are somewhat subjective, so please answer according to what you feel your philosophy is.

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Old 08-29-2013, 08:14 AM   #2
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Aren't options 2 and 4 the same? Or am I missing something? In the actual poll, that is, not the options you have at the bottom of your post.

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Old 08-29-2013, 08:18 AM   #3
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:37 AM   #4
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Aren't options 2 and 4 the same? Or am I missing something? In the actual poll, that is, not the options you have at the bottom of your post.

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Doh. Can I edit my own poll? I will try.
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:57 AM   #5
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If you can modify the Poll, replace "teach" with "learn" and I'd find it easier to place a vote.

In the realm of countersteering "teach" and "preach" often can be nearly the same. For me it was more important to learn that it ever has been to teach. (and I have taught it for a living)
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:59 AM   #6
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I do enjoy me some anecdotal science. To clarify though: Is the poll to determine what participants think that "noobs", as you call them, should know about; or is the poll intended to be voted by only said noobs? Or is it for everyone, to determine what they think they should know?
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:14 AM   #7
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There is no need to tech countersteering as its easy to steer / lean / corner a bike and wear gear and if you don't then don't come on hear saying I should of had my leathers on and I have bad road burn.
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The IMPORTANT thing everyone should really remember, is to never try to learn about either of them here.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:21 AM   #9
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So the way to read this:
It's not enough that the ATGATT crowd feels the need to preach to those who do not gear up all the time, they now would like you to believe that because they fear falling off their ride, they are better riders...

Give this shit a break.
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The IMPORTANT thing everyone should really remember, is to never try to learn about either of them here.


I agree!
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:42 AM   #11
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The IMPORTANT thing everyone should really remember, is to never try to learn about either of them here.
Facetious tone aside, yep, this forum isn't the place for learning anything.
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:48 AM   #12
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Ignorance is bliss

I got my learnin' from the School of Hard Knocks in 1966...... have covered the best part of half a million km in about a dozen and a half countries since then.

Down on the farm I have turned a few bulls into steers in my time, and encountered them several times before their final muster to be trucked off for slaughter.

Sometimes we boiled up a few steer bones and added ATGATT, MSF and CBT macaroni. We called it alphabet soup.

It wasn't until I joined an internet forum a couple of years back that I discovered these terms had any application to motorcycling. Having survived all these years, muddling along, apparently uneducated and under clad, I cannot see what the fuss is about.
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:36 PM   #13
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Facetious tone aside, yep, this forum isn't the place for learning anything.
Dealing with the publiC has made me that way to some extent, but this wasn't a case.

You can read ad nauseum the two sides of anything and throw in a mix of humor, ignorance and trolling and there you have it,,,,,,,,,,,A MC forum.

For the "book" guys, I'll agree a book may help someone who needs to touch up things but it usually confuses or overwhelms new or novice riders. After a few months to years under the belt some are really great.

Learn to ride from someone who can teach you in a manner that you get the knowledge to stay alive, the rest will come in time, for most.

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