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Old 08-07-2014, 08:42 AM   #1
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Factory tour - give me your questions

I've been invited for a factory tour of KTM Mattighofen, Austria at the end of this month. No cameras or phones allowed inside but if you let me know what you are interested in finding out I'll ask some questions and report back. Please no gripes or complaints about your current bike. I won't ask! I'll be trying to get some info on the possible 1050 twin development and maybe a new RC8R 1290 but anything else let me know.
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:19 AM   #2
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Ask what it would take to build another SE? Any engine size. Preferably bigger is my preference. Bottom line, any chance at all, even remote, of another SE run?
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:36 AM   #3
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My understanding from speaking with my dealer on Monday is that KTM is going to announce their entry into MotoGP for 2016/17 when rules change again and for compliance, they will need to homologate road bikes to be able to use the proposed engine - this is supposedly intended to be a V4 (which would not be the first time KTM builds a V4 for MotoGP)...can and will they confirm / deny?

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Old 08-07-2014, 10:07 AM   #4
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My understanding from speaking with my dealer on Monday is that KTM is going to announce their entry into MotoGP for 2016/17 when rules change again and for compliance, they will need to homologate road bikes to be able to use the proposed engine - this is supposedly intended to be a V4 (which would not be the first time KTM builds a V4 for MotoGP)...can and will they confirm / deny?

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Think that was confirmed...

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...ogp/25345.html
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:23 AM   #5
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Ask why they haven't added a cruise control option to the 1190 std. as have many of the other Adv bikes have. Many of us use these bike to travel on and explore. Many have added manual CC's and with ride by wire it is so easy to add this. Thanks.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:31 AM   #6
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If the 1190 is competing with the other large adv bikes it should have cruise.

Some of us have to ride for 1-1/2 just to find a corner or dirt.

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Ask why they haven't added a cruise control option to the 1190 std. as have many of the other Adv bikes have. Many of us use these bike to travel on and explore. Many have added manual CC's and with ride by wire it is so easy to add this. Thanks.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:31 AM   #7
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Ask if they are developing a 690 Adventure spec bike similar to the 640 Adventure they did a few years ago but this time a twin based on the 690 Enduro.
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Old 08-07-2014, 11:58 AM   #8
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Factory tour

RayS, First question is how you get invited to the factory for a tour? In 2008 I was just able to talk my way into a factory tour before they had tours.

Would be interested in knowing what the changes for 2015 will be to the 1190 Adventure. Have they addressed the current issues, air box dust leaks, tubeless wheel leaks, oil leaks on the rear cam cover, heat to the riders left leg and the omission of a cc.

As for a new SE I think it is in the same league as the original 950 SM. All 50 guys that wonted one bought one, and raved about it, the remainder of the bikes languished in dealer showrooms, often for years. I have an early SM and still really like the bike...

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Old 08-07-2014, 12:44 PM   #9
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a cc.

As for a new SE I think it is in the same league as the original 950 SM. All 50 guys that wonted one bought one, and raved about it, the remainder of the bikes languished in dealer showrooms, often for years. I have an early SM and still really like the bike...

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Old 08-07-2014, 01:19 PM   #10
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Those 50 guys have done a much better marketing job than KTM ever did when it was launched. Seven years later now I'd argue a new SE wouldn't sit as long on the floor. And between those 50 guys they own between 100-150 SEs!

I'd still love to hear an "official" response to the question if another SE is possible.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:16 PM   #11
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) How many BMW designers worked on the 1190 Adventure project ?

) Does KTM plan on returning to the adventure bike market soon ?


Seriously, that's what I would ask.

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Old 08-07-2014, 06:47 PM   #12
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That interesting, I had a 950 for 10 yrs and after some long trips on it I decided to buy a touring bike for the long slab trips but I really missed it when i would be in Utah or colorado and there were some great places to go explore but my touring bike just wouldn't be able. I sold it because it was just to harsh for the long rides. I loved it though, it was such a fun bike to ride. When I bought the 1190 I thought there was no way it could do off road like the 950, but maybe it would be able to do the long slab rides and some off road exploring so I took a chance. I found I needed to improve the airflow and have done that (Madstad screen) some protection care of BlackDog and I will be getting a custom seat built for me. I have found that this bike has amazed me I have done a few 400 to 500 mile day trips with no problems.The traction control and the off road abs are hard to believe even with the Contis on, it lets you just keep going even in moderate sand where my 950 would have just dug holes I have a set of TKC's that I have not put on because so far it has not needed it. I am not talking about single track stuff, mostly unimproved dirt roads through the mountains and the desert. The brakes with the off-road abs feature are so nice, its what I feared the most off-road with the 950. So i would say to tell the KTM guys they have done a great job creating an Adventure bike that can really be used to get you just about any where. I have a 450 EXC dual sport for serious dirt riding.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:58 PM   #13
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they will need to homologate road bikes to be able to use the proposed engine

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Homologation shouldn't be a problem for prototype "factory" MotoGP bikes. In fact they are prevented from running a street motor. Now the current "open" class is a little different and bound to change even more by 2016/17 but I don't think homologation is an issue for MotoGP. It surely is for WSBK.


EDIT: Appears they are not entering the factory bike but instead creating "production racers" much like Honda's RCV1000R a production version of the Honda RC213V sold for upwards of a million a piece. Regardless of what they do, I'm glad to see more factories getting back into the series. Suzuki will be back soon too!

DOUBLE EDIT: Sorry OP, I realize I totally took your thread off topic. I'd ask KTM about availability of some of the sub-400cc sport bikes entering the US market, as well as any cup club racing similar to Red Bull Rookies Cup that might spin back up here in the States.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:41 PM   #14
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I'd still love to hear an "official" response to the question if another SE is possible.
I'd hate to see another run of SEs. I had one of the 1st ones on the East Coast, and have loved every minute of ownership of this Military Grade Jungle/Urban assault vehicle. Just did the water pump seal upgrade at 34,000 miles, put a new fuel pump in the beast, and it's running like new again. Like a scalded cat!

If they come out with another production run, then mine won't be as valuable!

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Old 08-07-2014, 09:08 PM   #15
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Ask them, was it's KTM marketing or management that forced the release of an incomplete developed 1190 Adventure. Why have they sold a bike since 2013 with a KNOWN GLOBALLY defective airbox that requires owners to rectify with duct tape and or Uni Filter.

Forget all the other crap like the cooking rider seat, just that one simple question and watch the run around they'll give you.
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