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Old 01-14-2014, 09:03 PM   #91
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They don't have a US Distributor, but shipping is chaep and fast, even from 1/2 way around the globe. I had my shorty un branded in 4-5 days.
Just got on the wings website and email them.
I had a reply the next day. When the time came to order i got a reply very quickly. Paid by PP and got my shipping notice a few hours later. Very quick service this time around.
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Old 01-14-2014, 10:33 PM   #92
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Just got on the wings website and email them.
I had a reply the next day. When the time came to order i got a reply very quickly. Paid by PP and got my shipping notice a few hours later. Very quick service this time around.

Same here, quick response, great communication, quick shipping, and super quality, sound, and fit.
Can't recommend enough. Very happy with mine.
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Old 01-15-2014, 03:43 PM   #93
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Really? The Wings fits on the Arrow header? That's nice!

What about lambda-sensor? And reprogamming? Does it need a special program, just for it, made on a test bench?
does anyone know the answer to this ?
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:34 AM   #94
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does anyone know the answer to this ?
Well an educated guess here.. I believe you would benefit by having a special tune specific to this setup, however the cost of that tune being around $1000-1200 with a gain of maybe 2 more hp compared to the wait till ur next service and get the akro map for probably free isn't worth it IMO
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:23 AM   #95
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Hi all

would any slip on exhaust work?
I have a Vance and Hines cs one that would fit on the existing 1190 pipe
thoughts?

http://www.vanceandhines.com/store/sport/kawasaki/33511
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the one I have is black
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:35 AM   #96
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anyone?
You can install any exhaust. In terms of how they work, all free flow exhaust are just empty cans.
That V&H looks very nice, I would give it a try specially if it fits with no mods.

For the record (and your peace of mind) I've seen a couple of 1190R with Akrapovic cans from 990s, the mechanic (my mechanic actually, the same guy is at the Dakar race now taking care of bikes #41 and #42) had to make an adapter to make it fit, but that's still cheaper than buying a new one if you already have an exhaust lying around.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:58 AM   #97
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Very cool

thanks for the answer
since its a slip on , I would not have to remap anything?


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You can install any exhaust. In terms of how they work, all free flow exhaust are just empty cans.
That V&H looks very nice, I would give it a try specially if it fits with no mods.

For the record (and your peace of mind) I've seen a couple of 1190R with Akrapovic cans from 990s, the mechanic (my mechanic actually, the same guy is at the Dakar race now taking care of bikes #41 and #42) had to make an adapter to make it fit, but that's still cheaper than buying a new one if you already have an exhaust lying around.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:19 AM   #98
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Very cool

thanks for the answer
since its a slip on , I would not have to remap anything?
The assumption is no, you would not have to remap.
The Wings information says you do not have to remap.
You probably already know there is a new map for the Akro pipe. I saw a dyno chart for the Akro pipe and the difference was minimal. 1-2 hp.
There is an inmate that mentioned he has that pipe, and during a service he had the dealer install the Akro map. He thought it helped mid-range. I think it is/was a seat of the pants observation vs a dyno run. I prefer seat of the pants feeling because generally we ride in different RPM ranges given the different terrain we cover.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:25 AM   #99
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The assumption is no, you would not have to remap.
The Wings information says you do not have to remap.
You probably already know there is a new map for the Akro pipe. I saw a dyno chart for the Akro pipe and the difference was minimal. 1-2 hp.
There is an inmate that mentioned he has that pipe, and during a service he had the dealer install the Akro map. He thought it helped mid-range. I think it is/was a seat of the pants observation vs a dyno run. I prefer seat of the pants feeling because generally we ride in different RPM ranges given the different terrain we cover.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:26 AM   #100
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Very cool

thanks for the answer
since its a slip on , I would not have to remap anything?
That's a different thing. I've haven't been following this thread but I'm sure the mapping issue has been discussed.

When I said that you can install that V&H exhaust, I meant that it will work as any other free flow Wings/Remus/Leo... exhaust. All of them are just empty cans (your V&H too, right?) and while there may be small differences between them don't expect they'll perform differently.
So, if all the guys are installing Wings exhaust and "assuming" it's safe, the same is true for your V&H.

What I don't know is if it's safe to install a free flow can replacing a baffled can without remapping. I don't have a 1190 and a dyno so I can't help...
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:35 AM   #101
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You probably already know there is a new map for the Akro pipe
Since the Akra for the 1190 is baffled (lots of restriction to flow) I wonder why KTM released an Akra map. Both OEM and Akra should flow the same or pretty close, right?
Am I missing something?
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:39 AM   #102
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That's a different thing. I've haven't been following this thread but I'm sure the mapping issue has been discussed.

When I said that you can install that V&H exhaust, I meant that it will work as any other free flow Wings/Remus/Leo... exhaust. All of them are just empty cans (your V&H too, right?) and while there may be small differences between them don't expect they'll perform differently.
So, if all the guys are installing Wings exhaust and "assuming" it's safe, the same is true for your V&H.

What I don't know is if it's safe to install a free flow can replacing a baffled can without remapping. I don't have a 1190 and a dyno so I can't help...
Thanks

yes its free flow but I can put a baffle insert
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:51 AM   #103
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Since the Akra for the 1190 is baffled (lots of restriction to flow) I wonder why KTM released an Akra map. Both OEM and Akra should flow the same or pretty close, right?
Am I missing something?
Unless they don't flow the same.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:56 AM   #104
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Can anyone confirm there is a different map for the Akra slip on? I don't believe that is true.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:58 AM   #105
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Unless they don't flow the same.
Right
But the 1190 has been in the market for a year, KTM selling Akras for it, and this is the first time I heard about an Akra map for a 1190...(maybe the release date for this map is what I'm missing )
So, KTM was selling 1190 & Akras and after one year they realized the bike was running lean and needs remapping...?
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