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Old 07-16-2013, 06:27 AM   #16
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:30 AM   #17
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No need for Steering Damper , maybe if you are a Yank and used to 8 lanes of smooth road and experience a little feedback when you go on a side road it may be required. Any competent rider will know that a damper isn't required and the ride is safe a secure for the designed purpose.
I agree that there is no reason for a damper. Too many riders take just 1 MSF course to get there license then think that they need no other training. If more people took there riding more seriously and spent some time practicing add on items would not be needed except in extreme cases. After the first few miles I got used to the light steering and now look forward to it.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:25 PM   #18
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No need for Steering Damper , maybe if you are a Yank and used to 8 lanes of smooth road and experience a little feedback when you go on a side road it may be required. Any competent rider will know that a damper isn't required and the ride is safe a secure for the designed purpose.
Wow, way to insult a whole nation of motorcyclists.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:40 PM   #19
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No need for Steering Damper , maybe if you are a Yank and used to 8 lanes of smooth road and experience a little feedback when you go on a side road it may be required. Any competent rider will know that a damper isn't required and the ride is safe a secure for the designed purpose.
I love the experts that don't even own the bike...
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:44 PM   #20
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Wow, way to insult a whole nation of motorcyclists.
We can only be insulted if we care what anyone else thinks.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:38 PM   #21
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Steering damper

3500 miles, never felt the need for one. Handles very well and no stability issues.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:04 PM   #22
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So long as I can still ride with no hands at 80mph I'm OK, but what the hell, if they want to throw in a steering damper I'll take it.
I'm on my way now to enroll in an MSF class and do slow turns in the church parking lot, then meet up with my peeps at Starbucks and talk smack about the guys that's riding gear doesn't all color match.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:07 PM   #23
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steering dampener?

I only test rode the GSW twice, so, not a whole lot of experience to speak from, only in comparison to my '07 GS 1200. The first thing I noticed about the bike, in the dealer's parking lot, sitting still, was how light weight the bike felt. I though, "it can't be". And especially after I found out it weighs about the same as the previous model. Obviously what has happened is BMW has lowered the center of gravity, although no one I ask about that possibility has any knowledge of it. At the same weight, I can't see any necessity of a steering dampener. The bike is just more nimble to handle. In my mind, one of the big "sells" on the new model!
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:11 PM   #24
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Mine feels rock solid even over 100mph. I've never ridden the previous model GS only the GSAs.

BMW isn't installing a steering damper because of media pressure. Nobody tells the German engineer their business.

If the '14 bikes have a steering damper I suspect there is a reason and can only hope that we get our bikes retrofitted for free.
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:26 PM   #25
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I love the experts that don't even own the bike...
Great that you respect me as I am an Owner ! What's more have been on road off road and wet roads. The post was not intended as an insult to Yanks, but as a critique to those who may never ride on anything but smooth roads ! I have in my 47 years or more of riding ridden bikes that are dangerous without a damper.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:20 PM   #26
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Great that you respect me as I am an Owner !
Time to update your signature then!
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:31 AM   #27
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Great that you respect me as I am an Owner ! What's more have been on road off road and wet roads. The post was not intended as an insult to Yanks, but as a critique to those who may never ride on anything but smooth roads ! I have in my 47 years or more of riding ridden bikes that are dangerous without a damper.
You should be careful with your assumptions. Reasonable people will disagree about the need for a steering damper, there is no magic formula or set of test conditions that can completely rule them out, unfortunately. FWIW, I've been riding for over 20 years, including a few years of racing. If you think I only ride smooth roads you've obviously never ridden in New England, where frost heaves were pretty much invented.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:35 AM   #28
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I don't think my bike needs one, even riding two up. I've had it up to 120 MPH and so far no handling complaints.

If a free retro fit was available (which I doubt), I would want to ride a bike with one on it first before allowing it to be fitted to mine.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:36 AM   #29
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Unless you've thrashed about in every conceivable riding condition how can you say there is no need for a steering damper. No,I don't own a GS but I've spent a few hours on the LCD doing test rides. Was the need for a damper apparent to me .... NO. Do I think adding a damper is a bad thing..... NO. Do I believe there may be conditions where a damper will be helpful.... YES!

Bring it!

As always, YMMV!

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Old 07-17-2013, 08:46 AM   #30
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Isn't there ever a downside to having your steering damped? Would you be able to turn off the damping somehow, like turning off the ABS or the enduro mode?
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