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Old 07-28-2013, 04:08 AM   #16
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I'm sure you've got it almost right except for the part where it says about the homologation. It means the French have to ride with in France homologated helmets. It simply does not mean that foreigners have to wear helmets homologated in France. But I'm out of here!
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:49 PM   #17
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I've been riding for 2 years in Paris and around on a daily basis with my US Shoei, never been stopped (for the helmet or anything else...)
it is very unlikely you get fined for missing stickers, only if you get stopped by a real pain in the butt cop... or if you try getting a smart ass with them...

If you really play by the book, the main issue might be the insurance and specific requirements implied in the coverage policy. If you're riding in France with foreign insurance, no issue, but a french insurance will require wearing a helmet approved by French standards, including the stickers...
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:12 AM   #18
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I've seen a lot of confusion about this recently. Most recently I've been told it only applies to helmets sold in France, so any foreign riders would be exempt from the rule. Most people I know that have gone there recently have put stickers on because of the AA/RAC website saying it's a must for everyone.
I also read the reason is so that if you fall off and are in the road headlights should pick up the stickers on your helmet and not run over your head!
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:50 AM   #19
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If you read the link i posted about 4 posts back,
you'll see a quote from the French minister of transport.
All info is there

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Old 08-15-2013, 10:55 AM   #20
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I've seen a lot of confusion about this recently. Most recently I've been told it only applies to helmets sold in France, so any foreign riders would be exempt from the rule. Most people I know that have gone there recently have put stickers on because of the AA/RAC website saying it's a must for everyone.
I also read the reason is so that if you fall off and are in the road headlights should pick up the stickers on your helmet and not run over your head!
I can not imagine that any police officer or gendarme in France would ever waste their time citing for lacking stickers on a foreign helmet unless you are a complete arshole. The AA/RAC is just covering its backside.

The second point just has to be a gag.
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:36 PM   #21
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Don't ride in the dark when touring France so never had them, it also only applies to French riders as the quote states "sold and used in France" mine wasn't sold in France so doesn't need them.
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Old 08-17-2013, 12:20 PM   #22
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For those who can't be bothered...
Direct quote from the French transport minister:

Bonjour,

L'article R431-1 du code de la route prévoit que tous les conducteurs et
passagers de deux-roues motorisés doivent porter un casque homologué et que ce
casque doit être attaché.
Le texte ne mentionne pas de dérogation pour les conducteurs étrangers.
On en déduit donc que les conducteurs anglais sont soumis à cette réglementation
lorsqu'ils circulent en France.

Les normes d'homologation des casques sont les mêmes en France et en Angleterre.
Elles sont décrites dans le règlement 22-05 qui laisse à chaque Etat le choix
d'imposer au non le port d'éléments rétro-réfléchissants.
La France a choisi de rendre obligatoire ces autocollants. Dès lors un casque
qui en est dépourvu est ici jugé comme non homologué et justifie la
verbalisation du conducteur (amende de 135 €).


Cordialement,

R 431-1 Annexe 22 05 is the code de la route law which is 'en vigeur' in France, and concerns all helmets sold and used by Motorcyclists on French territory. It confirms that all helmets must be homologated, and in France that means that reflective stickers must be included. Code de la route regulations and laws concern everyone who uses France's roads without exception, so that means R431-1 22 05 applies to everyone which includes any foreign visiting Motorcyclist.


This is a direct quote, and has NOTHING to do with me or my opinion of this law
Or what I believe to be true or not..

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Old 08-18-2013, 03:30 PM   #23
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But it is only the transport ministers opinion, not actually the law.
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:31 AM   #24
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But it is only the transport ministers opinion, not actually the law.
The minister says, and I translate in practical words, that 'the law doesn't speak to exemptions for foreigners. One deduces that English/UK riders are subect to the regulation'.

The law says, 'concerns all helmets sold AND used by motorcyclists in France', not sold OR used in France.
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:01 AM   #25
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I have been stopped, fined, had bikes nicked in Paris all whilst wearing a UK helmet with no reflective stickers.......it was never brought up, so if you do get fined for this you just met the most pedantic cop in France..
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But it is only the transport ministers opinion, not actually the law.
Hmmmmm;
R 431-1 Annexe 22 05 is the code de la route law which is 'en vigeur' in France
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:59 PM   #27
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The minister says, and I translate in practical words, that 'the law doesn't speak to exemptions for foreigners. One deduces that English/UK riders are subect to the regulation'.

The law says, 'concerns all helmets sold AND used by motorcyclists in France', not sold OR used in France.
I would interpret sold AND used as both conditions being fulfilled simultaneously. Since my helmet was purchased in the UK, when I travel in France it is being used there but wasn't sold there. Last month I did 1,000 miles purely in France and no police even gave me a second glance.

If it said sold OR used, that would be a completely different matter.
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