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Old 07-24-2013, 09:36 AM   #1
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New Chain for the 950: To Rivet or To Clip, That Is The Question

New chain going on. Would a clip style master link be substantially weaker or less reliable than a riveted masterlink?

Cons?
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:04 AM   #2
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Let me be the first to say" CLIP THAT BI-ACH"! The rivet links are what the bike comes with and what is recommended by the MFG for solid chain. Clip links have the same tensile strength, just not the same permanent sideplate fixture.
Use a dab of silicone on a degreased link sideplate and clip, to securely retain the clip. Clip links are retained that way by Superbike racers every time they hit the track for a race. If they run clip links on their 150+hp bikes, I think we can safely run them on our 100hp bikes...

edit to add: never had a rivet link on my LC8 after cutting the first chain off to regear, when I got the bike.
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:45 AM   #3
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Thanks that's the feedback I was looking for.

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Let me be the first to say" CLIP THAT BI-ACH"! The rivet links are what the bike comes with and what is recommended by the MFG for solid chain. Clip links have the same tensile strength, just not the same permanent sideplate fixture.
Use a dab of silicone on a degreased link sideplate and clip, to securely retain the clip. Clip links are retained that way by Superbike racers every time they hit the track for a race. If they run clip links on their 150+hp bikes, I think we can safely run them on our 100hp bikes...

edit to add: never had a rivet link on my LC8 after cutting the first chain off to regear, when I got the bike.
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:49 AM   #4
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I prefer rivet links to clips. I've never removed a chain once it's installed for anything but to replace it.

That said, I've used a clip type master a time or two....
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:00 AM   #5
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...........Would a clip style master link be substantially weaker or less reliable than a riveted masterlink?............
IMHO, it is.
I have seem several clips from clip style master links work their way out in O-ring chains, never in a regular chain.
I would safety wire the link instead.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:21 PM   #6
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A Rivet is stronger,more fool proof,easy to install. I use clips on dirtbikes.
Always a rivet on streetbike chains,always.
If you dont have a rivet tool, back the master link with something solid and peen the rivet ends over,its easy.

A random what ever can ding a clip master link and there you are on the side of the road trying to find the parts to your chain.

Factories use rivets for a good reason.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:24 PM   #7
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Thanks that's the feedback I was looking for.
Superbike chains are run for not long at all,streetbike chains might run for 22,000 miles through all kinds of filth and debris.
No comparison.

Mfgs say to use rivet because they are more reliable by a ways,they dont come loose and cant be knocked off by flying sticks/rocks/roadkill.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:28 PM   #8
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one word "rivet"
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:03 PM   #9
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Removing chain rivets in the field

Now that rivets seem to be the way to go, anybody have suggestions for removing chain rivets in the field with minimal toolage? I realize you need a chain breaker tool but what about grinding the rivet flare off first? Files? hacksaw blades? chisel and hammer? what?

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Old 07-24-2013, 06:09 PM   #10
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Now that rivets seem to be the way to go, anybody have suggestions for removing chain rivets in the field with minimal toolage? I realize you need a chain breaker tool but what about grinding the rivet flare off first? Files? hacksaw blades? chisel and hammer? what?

thanks,

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I wonder why you want to remove it? Cant just leave it in place and ride around marveling at the scenery?

I rarely stop and remove my chain on rides but a proper chain tool could probably get the riveted link out.
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:11 PM   #11
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I wonder why you want to remove it? Cant just leave it in place and ride around marveling at the scenery?

I rarely stop and remove my chain on rides but a proper chain tool could probably get the riveted link out.

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Old 07-24-2013, 11:13 PM   #12
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proper chain tool is designed to push out rivers with flare completely grinded off, otherwise your tool will break))))
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:53 PM   #13
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I once used a clip connector.

Ina week I noticed the clip was missing. I never used a clip again.

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Old 07-25-2013, 11:44 AM   #14
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Superbike chains are run for not long at all,streetbike chains might run for 22,000 miles through all kinds of filth and debris.
No comparison.

Mfgs say to use rivet because they are more reliable by a ways,they dont come loose and cant be knocked off by flying sticks/rocks/roadkill.
This ^
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:36 PM   #15
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I like using clips. If they are installed correctly and facing the right direction I've never had any issues. Running a clip on my R6 track bike for about 10 trackdays and on my KTM dirtbikes for the last 3-4 years. So far so good.
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