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Old 07-29-2013, 08:04 AM   #1
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canadian loop from VT/NH

I'm not sure if this is the place to post this question, but i was thinking of doing a day ride up through canada from vt and coming back down through NH roughly. I'm not sure what hours the borders are open i guess that would determine my route in and out. anyone here done that been there??

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Old 07-29-2013, 10:11 AM   #2
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:02 PM   #3
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Noyan Route 225 Alburgh VT 225 24 hour service year round
45°0′41.69″N 73°17′47.54″W
Clarenceville Chemin Beech Sud Alburg Springs Alburg Springs Road daytime service year round (8:00 am–Midnight)
45°0′46.92″N 73°12′44.27″W
St. Armand/Phillipsburg Route 133 Highgate Springs I-89 24 hour service year round
45°0′55.55″N 73°5′5.17″W
Morses Line Route 235 Morses Line VT 235 daytime service year round (8:00 am–Midnight)(USA) / daytime service year round (8:00 am–4:00 pm) (Canada)
45°0′51.45″N 72°58′42.59″W
Frelighsburg Route 237 West Berkshire VT 108 24 hour service year round
45°0′58.67″N 72°49′31.13″W
East Pinnacle Chemin de Richford Pinnacle Road Pinnacle Road 24 hour service year round (USA) / daytime service year round (8:00 am–4:00 pm) (Canada)
45°0′56.03″N 72°42′00.15″W
Abercorn Route 139 Richford VT 139 24 hour service year round
45°0′54.00″N 72°39′45.51″W
Glen Sutton Chemin de la Vallée-Missisquoi East Richford VT 105A 24 hour service year round (USA) / daytime service year round (8:00 am–4:00 pm) (Canada)
45°0′42.79″N 72°35′19.13″W
Highwater Route 243 North Troy VT 243 24 hour service year round
45°0′26.12″N 72°24′57.25″W
Stanstead (Beebe) Route 247 Beebe Plain Beebe Road 24 hour service year round
45°0′20.93″N 72°08′31.16″W
Stanstead (Rte. 143) Route 143 Derby Line US 5 24 hour service year round
45°0′20.64″N 72°05′57.56″W
Stanstead (55) (Formerly Rock Island)
A-55 Derby Line I-91 24 hour service year round
45°0′21.11″N 72°05′17.46″W
Stanhope Route 147 Norton VT 147 24 hour service year round
45°0′38.46″N 71°47′35.88″W
Hereford Road Route 141 Canaan VT 141 24 hour service year round
45°0′45.47″N 71°33′36.80″W
East Hereford Route 253 Beecher Falls VT 253 24 hour service year round
45°0′48.21″N 71°30′19.11″W
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:09 PM   #4
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wow thanks man . very helpful. now I just need to hear from someone who has been up there and what the roads are like and so forth.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:08 PM   #5
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if you cross at Phillipburg (I 91) there are some really cool roads just over the border.

just take your 1st right and head east, there are even some dirt roads as you head east.

I did that a couple years back and found some really nice stuff as I headed to Maine

I never was more then 15 miles north of the border
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Old 07-30-2013, 02:48 AM   #6
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thanks sailor. i think i will stick to mostly paved roads, but i plan on staying close to the border my first time around. i plan on having a full tank of gas on the way in there so i won't have to stop unless it's for food. i wonder if they except american money up there along the border?
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:10 AM   #7
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thanks sailor. i think i will stick to mostly paved roads, but i plan on staying close to the border my first time around. i plan on having a full tank of gas on the way in there so i won't have to stop unless it's for food. i wonder if they except american money up there along the border?
Make sure you have your passport up to date and any outstanding infractions resolved. Go to your bank and exchange a couple of bucks or in one of the towns before you cross the border. Where you will be over the border for a short while, money won't be much of an issue. Exchange can be confusing for some businesses. Where do you plan to cross at? You could ride over to Norton and come down 114 (nice ride) or cross back over at Pittsburg,NH. Come down Moose Alley (RT 3)
or cross over the border at Norton and cross back over at Derby.

I see you live in Granville. I live in Granby CT go through your neck of the woods all the time on the bike to head North.
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Old 07-30-2013, 06:08 AM   #8
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thanks ridesdirt. i'm not sure yet, but i think i will be heading up through VT and coming back down through NH. I plan on atleast a 150mile ride up in Canada. I do have a passport and don't have any infractions that i know of. good idea to look into just incase. I travel through Granby everyday to get to where I work in windsor. I do my best to mind the speed limit. I see the cops up and down 189 near east ST and then down through the center near the bike path.
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Old 07-30-2013, 03:54 PM   #9
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first off, the border customs are listed on the wikipedia if you want a quick overview.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rder_crossings

the more official version is
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/bwt-taf/menu-eng.html

and
http://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/index.asp

NOW--->>> Avoid this weekend, it is the end of the construction workers holiday and the crossing into canada wilee be terrible... we are talking many hours delay, easily. Not joking.

sample trip (dunno where you start):
grotton forest, smugglers notch, hazen notch (gravel),
missisquoi scenic road, around magog lake,
dixvile notch, maine 113, hurricane road NH, bear notch, kancmagus, NH 112.

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=U...7,8,14&t=m&z=8
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:26 PM   #10
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I'm not sure if this is the place to post this question, but i was thinking of doing a day ride up through canada from vt and coming back down through NH roughly. I'm not sure what hours the borders are open i guess that would determine my route in and out. anyone here done that been there??

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Years ago we did the Puppy Dog ride (PD) up through Vermont, crossed over in Derby, Vt., did a small loop across Canada and came in to NH and wove our way down.

The PD starts in Greenfield, Ma so it's convenient to you. Great ride of mixed dirt/pave. The Canada loop was...just plain dull in comparison. Back in NH/Maine the roads were great. dddd has a pretty good list there. Some are included in the below quoted post. Depending on where you decide to cross back in you could make a pretty good route using these roads:

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Think you mentioned you'd be in Plymouth, NH somewhere so let's start there.

This is not the most direct route but it will take you on some great roads.

Take 175/3/25/113 to Sandwich. Then Sandwich Notch Road (dirt) to 49. Watch your speed here. If you see a LEO there's prolly another up ahead. Take the left off 49 to Tripoli Road (dirt).

That'll dump you onto 175/3 into N. Woodstock. Woodstock Inn is a good lunch stop, btw.

Grab the Kanc (112) out of there (Lincoln is right next to it). Watch your speed on the Kanc.

On the far end of the Kanc look for Passaconaway Road on your left. It beats the rest of the Kanc by a long shot.

Take Passaconaway to Westside Road. Make a left then a right at the stop sign (River Rd). That'll take you to 16/downtown N. Conway.

Cross 16. Weave through the 'hood to Hurricane Mountain Road.

Prolly a good idea to have Google Maps open while reading this to follow along.

Take Hurricane to Green Hill Road. Do what you want but don't skip Hurricane.

Left on Green Hill to 113. Take that all the way up to 2. It'll split off to 113B for a spell and come back to 113. Either one will do.

If you want to miss the good stuff make your way to Portland from here.

Alternatively, make a right then a left about a half mile down the road onto Bridge St. Make a left after the bridge. North Road. Nice rip through here but don't get too crazy. A couple of LEOs live on it. At the sharp curve sign they aren't kidding.

This dumps you back on 2.

Make a right then south on 16.

IMO, the Mount Washington Auto Road should be done while you're there.

Head to it. Do it. Make a left when you get back to 16.

At Dolly Copp CAMPGROUND make a left then follow the signs over Pinkham B Road. Dirt.

At the end of that take a left. Follow that down to Valley Road (on left) to Jefferson Notch Road. More dirt. People like to drive on your lane on this one.

At the end of that take a left and run up to see what the Cog Railway is all about then head back to the intersection and make a left onto Clinton Mountain Road. My personal favorite.

That'll dump you onto 302. Make a left. Head to Bartlett and make a right onto Bear Notch Road.

That will dump you back on the Kanc. Make a left. Go ahead and ride it to the end so you can make your own comparison with Passaconaway.

From there find 302 and yawn your way across Maine to Portland.

Yer welcome.
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Old 07-30-2013, 06:32 PM   #11
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thanks sailor. i think i will stick to mostly paved roads, but i plan on staying close to the border my first time around. i plan on having a full tank of gas on the way in there so i won't have to stop unless it's for food. i wonder if they except american money up there along the border?

yes they will, but if you use a Credit card that does not have a trans fee it will be better.

I only found dirt because I was looking for it. good payment up there as well
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Old 07-31-2013, 03:02 AM   #12
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thanks DDD, Evilclown, Sailer this is all very helpful info. I've done sections of the PD route and may follow that route home. i think i may slab it mostly to the campground as I plan on staying in VT for a couple of nights. I will have my father and a few other guys tagging along that aren't exactly looking to ride dirt unless it's a campground road although my father's Electra Glide isn't bad on dirt roads.
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Old 07-31-2013, 04:28 AM   #13
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For gas in Canada just use a credit card at the pump. If you need cash get it from an ATM (which you may find at the gas station). Have fun !!!!
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:33 AM   #14
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Old 07-31-2013, 02:01 PM   #15
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Another fun option in Vermont is the 'Gap' roads. All but a portion of Lincoln is paved. Zigzagging your way up through is a great ride.
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