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Old 08-27-2013, 07:09 AM   #1
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What do you guys think about this? http://www.trailbikemag.com/2013/08/...250r-freeride/
With a good skidplate it could make a good entry level Trials bike, if it will turn.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:13 AM   #2
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Sounds close to the Ossa Explorer. I had a short ride on the Ossa and I liked it so I'm sure this bike would be nice as well. I think these bikes will appeal to people that want a trail bike that isn't a dumbed down version of an MX or race bike. It's great the manufacturers are going this way. I've been looking at pure dirt bikes for a while now but really enjoy riding a trials bike on the trails. If I won the lottery, I'd have one of each.

I've got a 500EXC as a dualsport/dirtbike, and a REV3 for trials. I think I'd go with the 250 Freeride before the 350 especially if it's lighter and a 2 stroke.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:55 AM   #3
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That's cool, but if they won't bring the 350 4-stroke to the US, I doubt they'll bring the 250 2-stoke.
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:24 PM   #4
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What do you guys think about this? http://www.trailbikemag.com/2013/08/...250r-freeride/
With a good skidplate it could make a good entry level Trials bike, if it will turn.
A $9300 entry level bike?
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:52 PM   #5
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I did a comparison of the 250 and the Explorer based on web info from the manufacturers.

Ossa, 81 kg with fuel

250 Freeride 92 kg w/out fuel. Seems like a huge difference. It seems TOO much actually.

As noted, the price difference is significant as well.

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Old 08-27-2013, 11:23 PM   #6
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I wonder if that extra 11kg would help it perform better in hard enduro type riding over the OSSA? If not then I would agree with garrett, maybe TOO much cost and weight.
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:00 AM   #7
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Ossa is a trials bike trying to be an enduro bike and KTM is an enduro bike trying to be a trials bike. Two different approaches to filling the same niche. Neither one would work better than a trials bike for trials. Probably both would work good for going fast on single track though. Which is what they're suited for.
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I did a comparison of the 250 and the Explorer based on web info from the manufacturers.

Ossa, 81 kg with fuel

250 Freeride 92 kg w/out fuel. Seems like a huge difference. It seems TOO much actually.

As noted, the price difference is significant as well.

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You did notice that only the KTM has electric start, right?
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It's a good effort. Not sure how well it will turn with a 56" wheelbase.
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It's a good effort. Not sure how well it will turn with a 56" wheelbase.
Better than there 350 EXC-F at 58.4 but not as good as the OSSA at 52...
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:09 PM   #11
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You did notice that only the KTM has electric start, right?
You're right, that would account for a portion of the extra weight. The Ossa kick started easily enough, as does a well jetted trials bike so I wouldn't sacrifice the weight.

I think these bikes fill a niche and people that are getting into trail riding would likely do very well on them. I prefer my trials bike and LOVE it on tight single track rides.

I liked the Ossa, but wouldn't buy one.

Waiting for my Evo...not so patiently.

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Motocross Action has some more info.

http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/Ma...E-T-10476.aspx
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The tires are interesting, made by Maxxis, they look like a slightly wider spaced Trials pattern. Maybe the long awaited Endurocross tire?
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Rumor has KTM doing a trials bike. I've only heard this once, but from inside the industry. Anyone?
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:25 AM   #15
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Rumor has KTM doing a trials bike. I've only heard this once, but from inside the industry. Anyone?
They built a prototype in the mid-70's, so it could happen again.
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