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Old 08-05-2013, 04:29 PM   #1
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Now I know why cars hate lane splitters..

Anyone commuting into San Francisco this morning probably got caught up in the spectacle that was the tractor trailer on fire on the Bay Bridge. As you can imagine traffic was worse than the already normal Monday morning commute. Fortunately, I was on my bike and got spared the brunt of this mess. As I'm splitting lanes on the bridge where the cars are at a virtual stand still and bumper to bumper, another cyclist behind me starts revving his motor VERY LOUD. He's obviously got after market pipes by the sound of his exhaust. I realize I'm going too slow for him and he wants me to move over for him, but because the cars are stopped and bumper to bumper, there's nowhere for me to stop. The entire time I'm waiting for a spot to open up between cars he's hitting his throttle. I finally find a spot and I can move over. As he speeds by, he's nailing his throttle as he moves along the lanes of stopped traffic, and I mean nailing it, like redline nailing it. I know if I was in one of those cars stuck in that traffic on a Monday morning and a guy goes by on a bike making all that noise, I would be pissed and want to "close the gap" on the next bike I saw coming.
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:05 PM   #2
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took you THIS LONG in life to figure out one single reason?




I can name a bunch.

but it doesn't over ride the fact that many many years BEFORE ever riding a street bike that it's benefits out weighs the negatives.
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Old 08-06-2013, 03:19 AM   #3
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Your post makes no sense. Would cagers rather than just have the bike sit next to them in traffic for hours instead.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:06 AM   #4
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In Michigan the cagers would be whipping their doors open to stand on the floorboards of their SUVs to get" a better look at what the hold-up is" That guy (or you) would be the next "hold-up" for other motorists. If you travel outside of CA remember this.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:17 AM   #5
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Your post makes no sense. Would cagers rather than just have the bike sit next to them in traffic for hours instead.
You are flip flopping between extremes. The bike NEITHER has to sit next to them for hours NOR fly by with earsplitting pipes at 125 kph. Howsabout like OP was doing, quietly ride along at an easy speed.
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:11 AM   #6
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The goal being that the people in cars think "damn, I wish I was on a bike" more and "another asshole on a motorcycle" less.
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Old 08-06-2013, 01:21 PM   #7
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You are flip flopping between extremes. The bike NEITHER has to sit next to them for hours NOR fly by with earsplitting pipes at 125 kph. Howsabout like OP was doing, quietly ride along at an easy speed.
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The goal being that the people in cars think "damn, I wish I was on a bike" more and "another asshole on a motorcycle" less.
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Old 08-06-2013, 01:34 PM   #8
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I watched a guy on a Ducati start playing his pipes when a van changed lanes about 15 seconds before he got there. By the time he arrived, the van was already completely in the other lane, but the guy on the bike had to wind the Duc and give them an evil glare.

What a douche.

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Old 08-06-2013, 02:18 PM   #9
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Your post makes no sense. Would cagers rather than just have the bike sit next to them in traffic for hours instead.
Yes, because that guy on the bike is getting ahead of the rest of us...

We're 'merkins and should all be equal- by force if necessary. See also "Harrison Bergeron".
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:21 AM   #10
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I also rode the bridge on Monday, about noon. Holy shit, what a mess. It took me about 45 minutes to get through it all - 10 miles. I never got passed by another bike, but I rarely went over 15 or 20.

People were so fried and zoned out that they were asleep at the wheel. Many people had one wheel on the white line, but refused to move back the the center when I was trying to split through.

Almost every guy in a truck with a lumber rack, or some kind of construction equipment did their best to make room. Asian women in BMWs, not so much.

And it reeked of weed the entire time.
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:54 PM   #11
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And it reeked of weed the entire time.
sounds like a typical Cali traffic jam to me
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:31 PM   #12
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... Asian women in BMWs, not so much. ...
And by women, you mean the one Asian woman you happen to notice behind the wheel of a BMW, and only because you liked the car and were looking at it longer than myriad vehicles around you.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:59 PM   #13
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And by women, you mean the one Asian woman you happen to notice behind the wheel of a BMW, and only because you liked the car and were looking at it longer than myriad vehicles around you.
No.

The Bay Bridge is 5 lanes wide, and 10 miles long. Traffic wasn't moving more than 5 mph, while I was going usually 10 to 15.

I passed many thousands of cars. Probably 5,000.
There's a shit-ton of BMWs in the Bay Area, and a shit-ton of Asian women. There were enough Asian women in BMWs for me to notice (just like guys in construction trucks). I'm observant when I ride. When some dick bag blocks my way, and I sit behind them trying to get by, I notice them.

The reason I noticed so many Asian women in BMWs blocking my way, is because there were enough of them that I noticed a trend.

Were there white guys in Camrys who didn't let me through? Black guys in Acuras? Mexican women in mini vans? Sure. Were there enough that I saw a trend? No.

3 things stuck out to me - working guys in trucks, Asian women in BMWs and it smelled like weed.

Next time you ride past 5,000 cars at 10 mph, let me know the demographics.

If cars were 20' long (including space between them) there were over 2,600 cars per lane (or 13,200) cars on the bridge. I passed them all, except for some who got off the bridge before I passed them.

If you didn't ride it, it's probably difficult to understand the scale of it.
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Old 08-07-2013, 08:08 PM   #14
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Guys who rev their engines like that are like babies crying to get their mothers attention except you can't just cram a pacifier in their mouth to shut them up.
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Old 08-09-2013, 09:10 PM   #15
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No.

The Bay Bridge is 5 lanes wide, and 10 miles long. Traffic wasn't moving more than 5 mph, while I was going usually 10 to 15.

I passed many thousands of cars. Probably 5,000.
There's a shit-ton of BMWs in the Bay Area, and a shit-ton of Asian women. There were enough Asian women in BMWs for me to notice (just like guys in construction trucks). I'm observant when I ride. When some dick bag blocks my way, and I sit behind them trying to get by, I notice them.

The reason I noticed so many Asian women in BMWs blocking my way, is because there were enough of them that I noticed a trend.

Were there white guys in Camrys who didn't let me through? Black guys in Acuras? Mexican women in mini vans? Sure. Were there enough that I saw a trend? No.

3 things stuck out to me - working guys in trucks, Asian women in BMWs and it smelled like weed.

Next time you ride past 5,000 cars at 10 mph, let me know the demographics.

If cars were 20' long (including space between them) there were over 2,600 cars per lane (or 13,200) cars on the bridge. I passed them all, except for some who got off the bridge before I passed them.

If you didn't ride it, it's probably difficult to understand the scale of it.

feel you on that. bay area commuter traffic... sucks. vehicle accident.... sucks more. on the bay bridge.... nice. perfect storm type deal.

today I commuted a bit over 100 miles from long beach to san diego... on the way home, Friday afternoon, summer time, accidents. yeah, great stuff. I estimate at least one third of the commute home today was bumper to bumper land split.. even in the car pool lane. crazy. it's like you either live it, or don't have much appreciation for how it is or can be.

my recognition of the demographics is a bit different.... not loving most of the working vans for instance. although I did catch an Asian lady looking like she was starting to drift off to sleep while slowly crossing the line in her bmw suv...

in the process passed numerous bikes and was passed in turn by others. I think I was rolling somewhere in the middle. pulled over to let one sport bike pass thru doing a solid roll... only to find a motorcycle cop about 2 car lengths behind him. the cop rolled off, cut over a couple lanes and I lost sight. (he wasn't after the bike which is what I thought at first)

EDIT: just figured out it actually had to be almost two thirds... with at least a third crawling or stopped. it was a bad commute day.
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