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Old 08-15-2013, 12:13 PM   #1
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Plate numbers on bike different than ones on title.

I am planning on leaving for Mexico and further south tomorrow and just looked at my title. The license plate listed on the title is not the current plate on the bike. I just went to the TX DMV and they told me not to worry that the process is based on the VIN. I would have to surrender my title to the county and wait 4 to 6 weeks to get an up to date title.

Has anybody crossed on a title that has different plates listed then the ones on the bike?
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:07 PM   #2
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Why would a state print a license number on a title? I've never lived in a state that does this.
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:19 PM   #3
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I don't know why they would put a plate number on the title but am concerned about trying to cross the borders with the wrong plate number on the title. The registration papers have the correct plate number but not the title.
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Old 08-15-2013, 04:08 PM   #4
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my experience in latin america with small-minded officials is that you very well may have an issue. i haven't crossed any borders by vehicle, but even in-country they sometimes check the paperwork against the numbers on the bike, but they are usually looking for the VIN. plates generally are at issue when you get pulled over, and then they are comparing the plate on the bike to your registration (circulacion)

perhaps you could make up some BS that it only indicates the plate number that was issued at the time title was issued.
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Old 08-15-2013, 04:19 PM   #5
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Why would a state print a license number on a title? I've never lived in a state that does this.
Some states do. California, for example.

Personally, I like it when all the numbers on all my documents agree with one another. Sooner or later you'll run into someone who'll check them all, with an eye to extracting mordida, confiscating your bike, or merely showing you who's boss.

On the other hand, there's no denying that rules are generally fluid throughout Latin America. A good excuse, told repeatedly in incomprehensible Spanglish and accompanied by wide-eyed sincerity and lots of bowing and scraping will usually do the trick.

Better you than me, however.

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Old 08-15-2013, 05:00 PM   #6
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I had this issue with my Calif. title. The original plate got lost in Baja (imagine that) so the plate number on my title was different from the actual/registration.

Funny thing is that I totally forgot about it. In all the border crossings that I actually had to show my title, one official caught the discrepancy. I explained to him that the original plate was stolen and I had to get a new one and they dont issue a new title just to get a new plate. He checked the VIN and engine numbers to make sure they matched the title, double checked the VIN/plate number with the reg, and was happy with the explanation. I think it was on the Chilean side of one of the Chile/Argentina crossings IIRC.

As always, YMMV, a lot!

Personally, had I caught the issue before I left, I would have got a replacement title since the potential for hassles is very high in this case.

One thing to do might be to apply for a replacement title with the DMV due to loss. If you can fill out the new plate number on the application form you should be good to go. Hold onto the original, and use it if needed, then have the replacement sent to you when it arrives. Just a thought.

I lost an Alaska title, went down to the DMV, filled out a form, showed ID, and they printed me a new one right there on the spot. I was shocked how easy that was.
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Old 08-15-2013, 06:22 PM   #7
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...A good excuse, told repeatedly in incomprehensible Spanglish and accompanied by wide-eyed sincerity and lots of bowing and scraping will usually do the trick.
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This method has worked for me so many times.
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:57 AM   #8
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Since I'm retired and have the time I went ahead and went down to the DMV this morning and applied for a new title with the correct plate number on it.
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Given your avatar photo you could have easily explained it was the plate number in your head
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:06 AM   #10
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VIN vs. PLATE

Your VIN is what defines any document or permit in Mexico and what is is looked at by customs officials, police, etc.

Most people who get into problems 1. Don`t speak the language 2. Don`t understand that they are in MEXICO...a foreign country.

Send me a PM and if push comes to shove and if you have a problem at any point you can contact me or anyone in Mexico and we can help out.

Enjoy Mexico and don`t listen to the BS. The Cartel and our network is happy to provide assistance in making your travels FUN and SAFE and to create memories of a life time.

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Old 10-15-2013, 10:46 PM   #11
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You take a nice solid rule and put it square across the plate number on the title. You draw a single line through it end to end so you can still read it but it is 'crossed out'.....then you legibly PRINT your correct plate number above or below. This is the official modification recommended by me. It's worked dozens of times for me and I mean dozens...like 36 or 48 times.

I've ridden to Puerta Vallarta Mexico on a BMW R1100RSL with a CAR DEALERS dealer plate on my motorcycle, yes a big car plate. Your mileage may vary.
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:49 AM   #12
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You don't have to use the title throughout latin america. Just use the registration and say it's the same as the title. (Where I'm from, it is, actually.)
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:10 AM   #13
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You don't have to use the title throughout latin america. Just use the registration and say it's the same as the title. (Where I'm from, it is, actually.)
I used my registration alone (without title) several times and didn't have any issues.

And while I don't condone this () It's pretty easy to do a nice photoshop job these days.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:35 PM   #14
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You could also just remove the license plate.

I ran for six years back and forth to Mexico with my Car Dealer plate on my motorcycle, full size car plate. Nobody ever said anything.

You could make a cardboard one, or none.

I made a cardboard car radio for a VW Bug to exit El Salvador once. I had to give my radio to a person I crashed in to!

Of course matching paperwork is best, but there is often a way if you look hard enough or try hard enough....it can be a hassle though.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:27 PM   #15
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I used my registration alone (without title) several times and didn't have any issues.

And while I don't condone this () It's pretty easy to do a nice photoshop job these days. While the title says California, you might notice the New Hampshire seal on the bottom and if you look closely you'll see the words VOID all over it. It worked flawlessly throughout Latin America . It has everything officials looks for: Fancy border, odd colors, ugly dot-matrix font, a seal and a control number.

that's great. only one problem: most countries have examples of official documents such as titles, drivers licenses etc. if you are lucky and they don't look, good on you. i wouldn't want to be busted at a border or worse, in country, with fake docs. say bye-bye moto!
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