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Old 12-18-2009, 09:39 AM   #1
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Death Valley Snow Report. Anyone been there lately?

For those of you who have actually recently ridden in Death Valley and the surrounding area, please post any current information and pictures about the riding conditions you have personally experienced or heard first hand from those you know.

It is very helpful to know about any washouts, closed roads (paved and dirt), snow and ice especially on the dirt roads throughout the park and surrounding area.

Throughout the winter, many of the passes can get snow and ice which can make particular sections very difficult or impossible to get through. Passes often closed because of snow include:
South Pass in Saline Valley
North Pass in Saline Valley
Hunter Mountain Road in Saline Valley
South Park near Ballarat

The summer can bring heavy rain in some areas causing sections of dirt and paved roads to be completely washed out.

Thanks for any information you can provide.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:00 AM   #2
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my best source for DV conditions is this one....you have to sign in though.

http://panamintvalley.com/forum/index.php

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Old 12-18-2009, 10:13 AM   #3
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I'll be there in a couple weeks... I don't know when your trip is.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:49 AM   #4
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my best source for DV conditions is this one....you have to sign in though.

http://panamintvalley.com/forum/index.php

PanamintValley.com
Thanks for the link.
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:57 PM   #5
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the morning report is also worth checking each day.
www.dvnha.org/morning_report/Morning.pdf
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:33 PM   #6
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The mountain ranges got snow over Thanksgiving weekend. That's probably all melted now, I'll see if I can track down current info.

I was in Butte Valley, the ranges only got a dusting of snow. Looks like the Panamint side got a lot of snow that is still there.

Butte Valley: 11-27-09


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Old 12-18-2009, 05:13 PM   #7
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the morning report is also worth checking each day.
www.dvnha.org/morning_report/Morning.pdf
Check out your link. It hasn't been updated since 11/28/09 unless I'm doing something wrong. That is why I don't rely on it anymore.

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Old 12-18-2009, 05:21 PM   #8
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was there 2 weeks ago. jackass canyon light snow and hunter mnt to racetrack not passable (some snow 6-8 inches) ice was the problem though we were on 1200 gs bikes.
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Old 12-18-2009, 05:27 PM   #9
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Where exactly is Butte Valley? Are you talking about Butte Valley near Klammath?

I like your bike. What size gas tank is that in the pic and who makes it. I've been riding a friends 2003 dual sported KTM 525EXC and I like it. It is the first KTM I have ever ridden. I've also got a DRZ400S that I have set up with a 4 gallon tank and I find the two bikes completely different but I like them both for different reasons.

Have you had any issues with your 450EXC? It has the new motor and I don't think I need the power of the 530 so if I bought a new one it would probably be the 450. Do you have any regrets buying the 450?

I find that I never use the full power of the 525 and rarely get into 6th gear while off road so I think the 450 might be better than the 530 because of the way I ride.

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The mountain ranges got snow over Thanksgiving weekend. That's probably all melted now, I'll see if I can track down current info.

I was in Butte Valley, the ranges only got a dusting of snow. Looks like the Panamint side got a lot of snow that is still there.

Butte Valley: 11-27-09

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Old 12-18-2009, 06:57 PM   #10
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Where exactly is Butte Valley? Are you talking about Butte Valley near Klammath?

I like your bike. What size gas tank is that in the pic and who makes it. I've been riding a friends 2003 dual sported KTM 525EXC and I like it. It is the first KTM I have ever ridden. I've also got a DRZ400S that I have set up with a 4 gallon tank and I find the two bikes completely different but I like them both for different reasons.

Have you had any issues with your 450EXC? It has the new motor and I don't think I need the power of the 530 so if I bought a new one it would probably be the 450. Do you have any regrets buying the 450?

I find that I never use the full power of the 525 and rarely get into 6th gear while off road so I think the 450 might be better than the 530 because of the way I ride.
If you head up Pleasant Canyon all the way to Rogers Pass, you would overlook Butte Valley, so it's just over the mountain range, to the southeast.

The tank is a 3.4 gal Acerbis, and it was a perfect fit. Stock is 2.4

There are some issues with this model. 2008, it has an oil migration problem, where the engine oil makes its way into the tranny oil. The seal needs to be replaced with an updated one. Mine is still stock. Also, the cam came with a faulty decompressor, fixed in 09'. My dealer says there is no problem, I say he is a f'n liar. Not to mention useless jetting, plugged up pipe, weak battery, very poorly designed rear turn signals, poorly designed rear fender, 2x4 like seat, and harsh front suspension. But it's all pretty easily fixed, and then it becomes a great bike.

No regrets, but it takes some work and $$$ to make it right.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:13 PM   #11
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I'll be out there on Monday morning,

Should be able to get you a heads up to how it's looking.
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Old 12-19-2009, 12:17 AM   #12
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South pass is super washboard, very muddy and has ice and a little snow remaining. Didn't stop a 40' fifth wheeler from making it in though!

north is 10-12 inches of snow and ice for miles.

south pass would be doable imho if you are determined and on a bike you can push. north pass would be a real challenge.

snow is melting but new storm coming in next week iirc.

nice thing is hard pack and no dust down in the valley woohoo!
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Old 12-19-2009, 12:28 AM   #13
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River Rat,

Are you becoming a personal resident of Saline Valley? I can imagine you out there now, sipping on a cold one, typing away on your SAT net, sharing the barnacle tub with some hottie from Mammoth.

Have fun out there, I'll be in the area on Monday around 2:00 PM'ish.

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Old 12-19-2009, 12:32 AM   #14
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River Rat,

Are you becoming a personal resident of Saline Valley? I can imagine you out there now, sipping on a cold one, typing away on your SAT net, sharing the barnacle tub with some hottie from Mammoth.

Have fun out there, I'll be in the area on Monday around 2:00 PM'ish.

Aaron,

You have it all wrong about RR ....... The HOTTIE from Mammoth was in the hot tub of the White Mountain Research Ride......


Welcome back from overseas, and thank you very much for your service.

Thought for sure you were going to give us a snow report from your other ADV vehicle!! Hope to see you at the March Noobs Ride...

Hoping to get out to DV in January again, so if anyone can find out why the daily report is not happening that would be great.

Probably like the National Weather Service getting their weather reports wrong over half the time. When they built their new building, they didn't have money in the budget to put in WINDOWS! No money for the daily report now either....


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