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Old 12-19-2009, 08:02 AM   #16
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The morning report is on this site now. It's not all on one page like before though. You have to click on road conditions and weather separately. Last updated on December 16th.

http://www.nps.gov/deva/index.htm
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:11 AM   #17
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Aaron,

You have it all wrong about RR ....... The HOTTIE from Mammoth was in the hot tub of the White Mountain Research Ride......


Welcome back from overseas, and thank you very much for your service.

Thought for sure you were going to give us a snow report from your other ADV vehicle!! Hope to see you at the March Noobs Ride...

Hoping to get out to DV in January again, so if anyone can find out why the daily report is not happening that would be great.

Probably like the National Weather Service getting their weather reports wrong over half the time. When they built their new building, they didn't have money in the budget to put in WINDOWS! No money for the daily report now either....


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Lack of Morning Report explained:

We share your aggravation about access to the parks morning report from
the internet. Unfortunately, to our and the public s frustration, we are
hampered by new homeland security and internet safety protocols that do not
allow us to easily post the morning report in a timely manner or on a daily
basis.

We have tried other alternative means to post our morning report including
posting it onto our park s cooperating association s web site. Here too,
we have run into roadblocks that prohibit us from posting to an outside
site.

The decisions to put into place additional restrictions on how and where we
can post our daily report are beyond the park level. We have been trying
for several weeks to work with our Regional and Washington contacts to come
to some type of solution that will allow us to post a daily morning report
on our web site or that of our park partner, but with little success.

We will continue to pursue avenues that will allow us to return to a daily
posting of the park s morning report for our visitor s convenience, until
then, we have created links on our park web site to the National Weather
Service s current forecast for Death Valley, which is what we use on our
morning report. We have also added a link to our Road Conditions page that
will be updated as road conditions in the park change. Daily temperatures
will be available via the park s phone messaging system. With spring a few
months away, many visitors will want to start getting information about
rainfall amounts and potential wildflowers. We will start posting a
Wildflower Report on our web site to allow visitors the opportunity to plan
their spring visits.

Again, we understand your frustration about the morning report. Until we
find a solution, we hope that the alternative links to the weather and road
condition information will help in the interim. Thank you for your patience
in this matter.

Sarah Craighead



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Old 12-19-2009, 09:32 AM   #18
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Spafxer,

It's great to be home. I was bummed to miss the White MTN ride. Hopefully I'll be around for it this summer, but I will definetly be at the March noobs ride.

Loner,

Thanks for the info! Glad to see some one working with the Park Service that appreciates ADV riding! Hopefully we'll see you on a future ride.

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Old 12-20-2009, 10:45 PM   #19
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I thought it might be somewhere in DV and didn't have my map handy. Thanks for the info. Even though the KTM's can sometimes be a hasstle, everyone that owns one seems to love 'em. At least getting to the carb to rejet is easier than most other bikes.

Thanks for the explanation on The Morning Report as well.

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If you head up Pleasant Canyon all the way to Rogers Pass, you would overlook Butte Valley, so it's just over the mountain range, to the southeast.

The tank is a 3.4 gal Acerbis, and it was a perfect fit. Stock is 2.4

There are some issues with this model. 2008, it has an oil migration problem, where the engine oil makes its way into the tranny oil. The seal needs to be replaced with an updated one. Mine is still stock. Also, the cam came with a faulty decompressor, fixed in 09'. My dealer says there is no problem, I say he is a f'n liar. Not to mention useless jetting, plugged up pipe, weak battery, very poorly designed rear turn signals, poorly designed rear fender, 2x4 like seat, and harsh front suspension. But it's all pretty easily fixed, and then it becomes a great bike.

No regrets, but it takes some work and $$$ to make it right.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:48 PM   #20
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I'll be out there on Monday morning,

Should be able to get you a heads up to how it's looking.
If you are riding the 1150GSA, be careful on the ice riding down South Pass. It gave me fits two years ago going back up, south, on an XR650L which I dropped twice. Once on each icy section. Going down I had no problem.

If you can post some pics of the mud and ice, that would be great.
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Old 12-21-2009, 12:30 PM   #21
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I was in DV last weekend (12-19) and i met a guy who tried to take wildrose to charcoal kiln, hit snow, and turned back. Just what I heard, since I was on a street bike and didn't feel brave enough to try that route. Maybe I'll do a ride report later...
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:51 PM   #22
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Here's what I could see...

North Pass, snow at the higher elevations, but not as covered as I thought it would be.

South Pass, clear until you hit the top. Then there is a solid section of snow that I would say is around 3 miles or so long. Now from my vantage point, I can't see ice, so it could be worse in the lower elevations. From what I saw, I wouldn't attempt to ride in on my GSA... at least, not unless there was plenty of beer and Mammoth ski bunnies promised at the warm springs.

Lippencott: Clear of snow from Saline to the Racetrack, couldn't tell about the ice.

Cerro Gordo: Lot's of snow.

There is a storm hitting the Sierra (and the rest of CA) right now, so by tomorrow all this could of changed. As for now, Lippencott looks like the best bet getting into Saline.

I didn't make it that far South, but the Panamints have a nice coat of snow on them. Stove Pipe to the racetracks looks clear.

That Death Valley report that details every road is pretty nice, I'm not sure how much they update it, but that may be the best thing to go by.

I should get out there again tomorrow and can give you another report (post storm).

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Old 12-21-2009, 03:54 PM   #23
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Sweet! I'll be there in a week!
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Old 12-21-2009, 04:15 PM   #24
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Thanks for the update. Is your vantage point from an airplane? If so, sounds like fun. Did you by chance get a look at Steele Pass north of Warm Springs and Death Valley Road near Eureka Dunes?

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Here's what I could see...

North Pass, snow at the higher elevations, but not as covered as I thought it would be.

South Pass, clear until you hit the top. Then there is a solid section of snow that I would say is around 3 miles or so long. Now from my vantage point, I can't see ice, so it could be worse in the lower elevations. From what I saw, I wouldn't attempt to ride in on my GSA... at least, not unless there was plenty of beer and Mammoth ski bunnies promised at the warm springs.

Lippencott: Clear of snow from Saline to the Racetrack, couldn't tell about the ice.

Cerro Gordo: Lot's of snow.

There is a storm hitting the Sierra (and the rest of CA) right now, so by tomorrow all this could of changed. As for now, Lippencott looks like the best bet getting into Saline.

I didn't make it that far South, but the Panamints have a nice coat of snow on them. Stove Pipe to the racetracks looks clear.

That Death Valley report that details every road is pretty nice, I'm not sure how much they update it, but that may be the best thing to go by.

I should get out there again tomorrow and can give you another report (post storm).

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Old 12-21-2009, 05:16 PM   #25
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Just out of curiosity how fast was your plane going? I think I recall seeing a picture of it a few months back
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:24 PM   #26
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Steel pass or lippincott are good 'escape' routes.
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:28 AM   #27
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Steel pass or lippincott are good 'escape' routes.
RiverRat:

What bike are you riding these days? Have you ridden over Steele Pass lately? If so, what bike were you on?

On my next trip I hope to ride from Ubehebe Crater to Lippencott to Steele Pass and then into Big Pine from Eureka Dunes. Heard any reports about the condition of Death Valley Rd from Eureka Dunes to Big Pine?

It poured rain in Reedley last night so there was probably alot of snow that headed to Death Valley from this storm.

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Old 12-22-2009, 11:13 AM   #28
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i ride the bikes in my profile. drz, 450 ktm and the super serow.

big pine rd is VERY icy. be very careful. The new storm hitting now will make things more difficult.

The snow should make it more fun. be prepared to spend a night out there or have enough fuel to take an alternate way out.
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The snow should make it more fun. be prepared to spend a night out there or have enough fuel to take an alternate way out.
At least one night...
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i ride the bikes in my profile. drz, 450 ktm and the super serow.

big pine rd is VERY icy. be very careful. The new storm hitting now will make things more difficult.

The snow should make it more fun. be prepared to spend a night out there or have enough fuel to take an alternate way out.
Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I should pack an ice pick...
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